Snag Alert...CBA not as close as some think??

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  1. chiavsfan

    chiavsfan Registered User

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    From Today's LA Times

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    Maybe things aren't "going as well" (sorry I was yelled at for putting kosher down) as people think
     
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    If we don't have a full season this year, I am going to snap.

    Get it done, or go to hell.
     
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    wow, this is some juicy stuff. however, we've been warned there could be some hitches along the way and this is no surprise.
     
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    There's that crazy LA media. One source saying the lockout is over and another saying it will go on and the season may not start on time. And people said the media in LA doesn't care about hockey.
     
  5. RangerBoy

    RangerBoy TRUST THE PROCESS

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    What is surprising about this article?Each side is trying to get an advantage

    Where is the juicy stuff? :shakehead
     
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    And people run around here wondering why I quell people's optimism. This is why.
     
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    i'm not sure i find a players agent terribly reliable. there could very easily be issues of that nature but coming from a partisan source like a players agent, how do we know how big those issues are? it wouldn't surprise me at all to find agents still trying to work some angles with the whole thing and to not be terribly happy at the fact they're going to be making less bank in the "new NHL"
     
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    Buy outs might be a serious point of contention, but, at this point, it's hard to imagine that "entry level contracts" would be a serious snag.
     
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    You obviously don't know what the term kosher means. It makes no sense the way you are using it.
     
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    Thats a pile of BS, I am sure a LA paper will be the media outlet for the news leaks. If there was a snag, the reporter from New York (Larry Brooks) would get the scoop.

    I do believe both sides are idiots for letting this go so long. Get it done already.

    I would not be shocked to see Mid July race by and still no CBA then the season will start to be delayed IMO.
     
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    I agree, Pro sports unions rarely look out for the little guy, and especially when the little guy is not even a member of the Union yet. So I can't see a deal being held up long over entry level contracts
     
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    Sounds like a ticked of agent whining about the rumoured CBA....total BS. Some Media guys should be fired when this thing ends.
     
  13. chiavsfan

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    Give me a flippin break...everyone else seemed to know what I meant. But just for you Mr. Grammer police, I will go back and change it.
     
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    Mr.Al Strachan thinks the opposite

    AS THE negotiations between the National Hockey League and its players' association drag on, day after day, week after week, month after month, fans wonder what can be taking them so long.

    Especially when it is accepted that both sides have agreed to agree on the basic concepts of a deal.

    In simple terms, it's the complexity of the document.


    http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hockey/2005/06/22/1099254-sun.html

    If you like reading Strachan cry,read the column
     
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    Does that mean he's not allowed to report on the NHL any more? :dunno:
     
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    My favorite quote from the article


    All I can say is :biglaugh:
     
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    Reason #1245 why sports journalists should leave the financial aspects of the game to people who write for the Business section.
     
  18. Levitate

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    actually it was a perfectly workable system...needed tweaking and harsher penalties, but it was similar to the system the NBA runs if i'm not mistaken, and that is a workable system.

    mayhaps you should argue that it wasn't a workable system for the NHL (which could be debatable). or maybe i should just stop spoiling for a fight :)
     
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    At this point, the fights...like the CBA negotiations are getting old and repetitive. I think we all need some new things to talk about
     
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    That's for sure .. We really never have known where the majority of the players stand on this .. We here a few quotes from a few select players but that does not guarantee that they speak for the majority ..

    For any deal to be ratified (voted on) then you are going to need 350 + players saying yes to the new CBA ..

    With all the rumours flying around like dispersal drafts , buyouts and restructuring requests in addition to 24%, that can't sit well with ALL players and some are hardliners just like owners ..

    I wonder if Goodenow still has a strong enough following that this could happen as the paper suggests ??

    If it didn't get accepted by the players I would imagine that the NHL would then declare an IMPASSE and put this exact document in as its CBA and move on to implementation with replacement players ..

    Not likely to unfold that way but it could ...
     
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    Entry level contracts when speaking of players like Crosby and Ovechkin they could.

    Might need special exceptions for special players or they may not start in the NHL as a result and that would be a shame ..
     
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    Or a totally different one that the players like even less?
     
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    i would think it is more positive with the hawks and ducks gm signings
    i mean we really havent seen any kind of activity like this for a while
    i think it is a sign of more to come like the cba getting done
     
  24. For what it is worth, I spoke to a former NHL GM the other day and he basically told me that he is just waiting for them to announce the CBA at this point. He wouldnt say if it was done, but he was curious as to what was the hold-up.
     
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    I highly doubt they would acheive impasse at this point. They have come this far, they would get laughed at by the labor board if they tried this. Espically of both sides of the hierarchy agreed to this. The only option at this point is to get the deal done.
     
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