Smyth and Brewer don't deserve to be here!

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McDeepika

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monster_bertuzzi said:
He's playing along side one of the best defensive defenceman in the game and he has the best goaltender in the world on his side. Jason Doig could be paired with Foote and look good....

k sry if u misunderstood me what i meant to say was that obviously brewer hasn't been making mistakes left and right and isn't that bad out there if they have only given up 3 goals in 4 games
 

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well, all the Brew and Smytty detractors have seemed to go under the rock where they should be after their laughable claims about Brewer only being there because of Lowe.
 

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well, all the Brew and Smytty detractors have seemed to go under the rock where they should be after their laughable claims about Brewer only being there because of Lowe.
What was said about Brewer is still true, he is on that team bcause of Lowe, just because he is playing above his head doesn't change that.
 

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k sry if u misunderstood me what i meant to say was that obviously brewer hasn't been making mistakes left and right and isn't that bad out there if they have only given up 3 goals in 4 games

No, he hasn't. In fact Brewer has had a good tournament, no denying that. None of that is my arguement.
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
What was said about Brewer is still true, he is on that team bcause of Lowe, just because he is playing above his head doesn't change that.

oh jesus. Get serious. There were five other guys making desicions that had just as much or more say then Lowe. It's laughable how you believe Lowe is some kind of re-incarnation of a mesmorizing mind controling hitler or something.

And if a person plays "over his head" on a regular basis would commen sense (which you fail to apply to the situation) not demand that this player is simply a streaky/inconsistent player that can play at that level at any time!?



Na.... logic is bad isn't it MrMastodonFarm!?
 

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oh jesus. Get serious. There were five other guys making desicions that had just as much or more say then Lowe. It's laughable how you believe Lowe is some kind of re-incarnation of a mesmorizing mind controling hitler or something.
Brewer was added to the 2002 team because of Lowe's imput. At that time people though Lowe was a good Gm, how wrong they were. haha. In 2004 they wanted to keep much of the same team together, Brewer is back on.

Just because he has put 4 good games together doesn't mean much, because he will just go back to the NHL and be outplayed on a regular basisc by Aucion, Phillips, Stuart, etc
 

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so ur argument is that brewer is only there cuz of lowe might be true but i don't think it is i think there is only one d man out there that should have been on the team instead of brewer acouin but i think he should have been there ahead of hannen regher bowmester and brewer
 

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Brewer was added to the 2002 team because of Lowe's imput. At that time people though Lowe was a good Gm, how wrong they were. haha. In 2004 they wanted to keep much of the same team together, Brewer is back on.

Just because he has put 4 good games together doesn't mean much, because he will just go back to the NHL and be outplayed on a regular basisc by Aucion, Phillips, Stuart, etc


is this about who shouldn't have been there in 02 sure lowe helped but don't u think that if phillips stuart etc were so much better then brewer the rest of the staff would have put them on
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
Just because he has put 4 good games together doesn't mean much, because he will just go back to the NHL and be outplayed on a regular basisc by Aucion, Phillips, Stuart, etc

Amazing - I didn't know that it was about what a player would do over an 82 game season for his club team.... and not what he'd do for team Canada in 6 games....

You have a great thought process!
 

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Also - by this logic - Carter should have made the olympic squad... he was playing just as good or better then Gagne at the time of selection. Lowe just didn't want to work his mind control powers over time or what?
 

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so ur argument is that brewer is only there cuz of lowe might be true but i don't think it is i think there is only one d man out there that should have been on the team instead of brewer acouin but i think he should have been there ahead of hannen regher bowmester and brewer
Will you learn how to type the english language correctly please?
 

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Also - by this logic - Carter should have made the olympic squad... he was playing just as good or better then Gagne at the time of selection. Lowe just didn't want to work his mind control powers over time or what?
No, Simon Gagne is superior to Anson Carter in his defensive end.

Gagne was in the middle of a 75 point season as well.
 

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Is? Yes. Was? no. On top of that - Both Simon and AC were seperated by like 4 points when the picks were made. Carter slumped big time after not being picked actually. Kinda like he was pouting at Lowe.

On top of that - Carter is stronger and more physical (although that aspect of his play has completely disapeared into oblivion as well).
 

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Is? Yes. Was? no. On top of that - Both Simon and AC were seperated by like 4 points when the picks were made. Carter slumped big time after not being picked actually. Kinda like he was pouting at Lowe.
Gagne -- two years ago -- was still superior to Carter in his own end, that is why he was picked over the flakey, one way, Anson Carter.
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
Gagne -- two years ago -- was still superior to Carter in his own end, that is why he was picked over the flakey, one way, Anson Carter.

I disagree, but that supports my arguement. Obviously Lowe was going to promote him, yet he wasn't taken. In your own mind, Brewer was taken before much better players and more sensible picks but was only there because of Lowe....

Why not the same for Carter then, huh??

Exactly.


And around and around we go in this lovely circle.
 

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ok,so the rest of the brain trust who all had an equal say in the matter only wanted to do Lowe one favour and make one pick they all felt was wrong for Canada and not two, eh? WOW, the logic - it's never ending.
 

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thome_26 said:
ok,so the rest of the brain trust who all had an equal say in the matter only wanted to do Lowe one favour and make one pick they all felt was wrong for Canada and not two, eh? WOW, the logic - it's never ending.

You're making no sense. Gagne was on pace for something like a 40 goal season at the time of his selection and as mentioned is a 2-way player.
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
Brewer was added to the 2002 team because of Lowe's imput. At that time people though Lowe was a good Gm, how wrong they were. haha. In 2004 they wanted to keep much of the same team together, Brewer is back on.

Just because he has put 4 good games together doesn't mean much, because he will just go back to the NHL and be outplayed on a regular basisc by Aucion, Phillips, Stuart, etc

Your responses & arguments are filled with so much speculation, hearsay, spelling mistakes & badly structured sentences I'm surprised you continue.

If you dont have anything other than your speculative opinion to contribute, why continue?
 
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This team is so much more than the accumulation of it's players.
True true true. After giving up 3 goals in 4 games, I think the defense has shown they all deserve to be there. End of Story. My biggest beef with Gretzky & co is that they have failed to address the biggest weakness of this club.... the stickboy (I think he only made the team because he dated one of the coach's daughter or something). I demand we get a better stickboy. I mean these players are professional, they deserve the best stickboys money can buy. Why can't Gretzky & co. see this. They must be idiots, they have no idea how to put a team together. :)
 

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He should try not to hit skates with clearing attempts. You act like its Lecavalier's fault for skating by.
Are you Pejorative Slured? I never said it was Lecavalier's fault... what I meant (which I thought was pretty obvious, but I guess not) was that it wasn't like Brewer threw it up the middle; he tried getting it out along the boards and it hit Vinnie's skate.

monster_bertuzzi said:
No kidding, I hit a pedestrian on the street crosswalk but its not my fault right? He was on the street!
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MrMastodonFarm said:
What was said about Brewer is still true, he is on that team bcause of Lowe, just because he is playing above his head doesn't change that.
:lol:
 

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Are you Pejorative Slured? I never said it was Lecavalier's fault... what I meant (which I thought was pretty obvious, but I guess not) was that it wasn't like Brewer threw it up the middle; he tried getting it out along the boards and it hit Vinnie's skate.


:shakehead

Thanks for the insult. You are defending a player for coughing up the puck. It doesn't matter if it was up the middle or along the boards, he still coughed it up big time.
 

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i take it Brewer is the only players who makes mistakes on Team Canada
not Foote, Hannan, Boumeester, Niedemeyer, and Regehr

yeah Brewer really must have been the only one who makes mistake to have stats like this

tied for 8th in team canada scoring with Thornton, Foote, Gagne, and Heatley
tied with Foote for scoring among Team canada dmen
3rd in team canada +/-
2nd in +/- for team canada dmen

tied for 6th in tournament scoring among dmen
tied for 8th in +/- among all players
tied for 3rd among all dmen for +/-

leaf fans are right they should have picked McCabe
 
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