SJHL Humboldt Broncos bus crash | 16 Killed, 13 Injured

[joestevens29]

there is zero need to release the name. it'll only serve to give trolls the ability to haunt his family.

There is also zero need for a guy to be negligent and kill 16 people.

 

[joestevens29]

I am a bit surprised that many of you do not want to even visit the possibility of adding more safety features at this intersection.

This is the simple fix that they did near my house where drivers speed: they added a speed radar sign, so if you are approaching the sign above the posted speed limit, strobe lights flash at you showing you how fast you're driving. They really get your attention and you slow down.

This should be done at all intersections where there is a history of serious accidents and/or have a perceived blind spots - like the trees at this intersection.

This can't be more than $8,ooo - $10,000 per intersection.

At least add some bigger and more stop signs and flashing red lights.

The cheapest and most efficient option is rumble strips. If there are already you start them even further back. Heck get convicts out there with a hammer and chisel

 

[joestevens29]

Speed bumps. Easy. Cheap. Effective. In all seasons. Try taking a speed bump at 100K+ That would get your attention and make you slow down for sure.

Speed bumps don't work on prairie highways, rumble strips are where it's at.

 

[Oilslick941611]

There is also zero need for a guy to be negligent and kill 16 people.

right, but also and?

saying his name doesn't need to be released doesn't mean I condone what he did. nor does it mean I'm defending it. they aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[joestevens29]

right, but also and?

saying his name doesn't need to be released doesn't mean I condone what he did. nor does it mean I'm defending it. they aren't mutually exclusive.

Why must we protect the people that break the law?

 

[NorwegianDevil]

Do you really think we are defending the driver just because we dont understand why his name is made known?
He has family like all others, family that problably will feel the consequenses of them naming him..

 

[NorwegianDevil]

Why must we protect the people that break the law?

We arent protecting him, we are protecting his family, people who had nothing to do with his negligence..

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Do you really think we are defending the driver just because we dont understand why his name is made known?
He has family like all others, family that problably will feel the consequenses of them naming him..

Literally every person that break a law has a family. The court isn't going to change how they do things because it is a high profile case. That just isn't how this works.

 

[joestevens29]

We arent protecting him, we are protecting his family, people who had nothing to do with his negligence..

Unfortunately he should've thought of that himself. Too many people abuse their rights in this Country and take advantage of what has been given to them.

Maybe next time people will think and learn from this mistake.

Don't need to start making it easier on criminals.

 

[Frank Drebin]

We arent protecting him, we are protecting his family, people who had nothing to do with his negligence..

Do you think those close to him (ie those in his neighborhood/hometown) don't already know who he is and what he is responsible for? I'd say his identity has been fairly well protected so far, but eventually its going to come out.

 

[BigTruzz]

His name was released

Jaskirat Singh Sidhu, 29 years old from Calgary. He was arrested without incident and is fully cooperating.

 

[NorwegianDevil]

So what do we get out of his name being released?

 

[joestevens29]

So what do we get out of his name being released?

When a criminals name is released it protects the public.

In this case it protects another company from hiring him.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Don't know any of the details but surprised nobody else was charged in something like this, maybe everyone in the transportation supply chain did their job perfect but that's rarely the case or maybe Chain of Responsibility isn't a thing in Canada?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Don't know any of the details but surprised nobody else was charged in something like this, maybe everyone in the transportation supply chain did their job perfect but that's rarely the case or maybe Chain of Responsibility isn't a thing in Canada?

I doubt anyone in the company was negligent enough to bring criminal charges. If the driver had been violating a standard set for amount of time in the seat without rest or something and that is brought to light you could see a civil case but in general the company wouldn't be held criminally responsible for one of their drivers negligence.

 

[joestevens29]

Don't know any of the details but surprised nobody else was charged in something like this, maybe everyone in the transportation supply chain did their job perfect but that's rarely the case or maybe Chain of Responsibility isn't a thing in Canada?

In Alberta OH&S usually has a lot to do with those and they usually take their full 2 years before laying charges.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

So what do we get out of his name being released?

general deterrent. People know if they commit a crime their name is subject to release.

 

[the4thlinegrinder]

Of course his name should be released. He’s been charged with 29 Criminal Code offenses. It’s not like these are traffic violations or something. Should police not have released the name of Bruce McArthur?

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Of course his name should be released. He’s been charged with 29 Criminal Code offenses. It’s not like these are traffic violations or something. Should police not have released the name of Bruce McArthur?

in a small town in Ontario (cant remember the name but it was on a drive to Tobermory), their local AM radio station reads off traffic charges and names from the previous day. I laughed.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I doubt anyone in the company was negligent enough to bring criminal charges. If the driver had been violating a standard set for amount of time in the seat without rest or something and that is brought to light you could see a civil case but in general the company wouldn't be held criminally responsible for one of their drivers negligence.

In chain of responsibility it's not about being negligent it's about being responsible. Goes all the way from the delivery schedule/expectations, loading/restraint of the product, mass/load of vehicle, training/supervision of the driver, monitoring the driver (checking log books, in-vehicle-monitoring system), vehicle maintenance, allowing legislated rest periods during individual shifts and throughout the week. No doubt the driver is the biggest cog in the chain but every accident generally has several other breakdowns that contributed, these are important learnings across the industry that get lost when focussed just on the driver

 

[snag]

There is also zero need for a guy to be negligent and kill 16 people.

He was charged with 29 criminal offences. Damn straight they should be releasing his name.

 

[snag]

So what do we get out of his name being released?

Uhm....a justice system?

 

[Ritchie Valens]

According to the Canadian law, a dangerous operation of a motor vehicle sentence is 6 months in jail; he's facing 16 of those. I would imagine the other 13 would be the same as that sentence as it is a fairly similar sentence (Dangerous Operation of a Motor Vehicle). He could be facing somewhere around fifteen-twenty years in jail.

Actually, it's a sentence of up to 14 years for causing death and up to 10 years for bodily harm/injury.

249(1) CCC defines what the offense is and the driver meets the elements of the offense based upon the circumstances. Subsections (3) and (4) of 249 detail the punishments for injury (sub 3) and death (sub 4).

Criminal Code

 

[Oilslick941611]

Why must we protect the people that break the law?

its not protecting him, its protecting his family from idiot trolls

 

[Rinkrat]

There’s a persistent rumour that he may have been texting at the time of the accident. Yeah, it’s just a rumour, but I’ve heard it from within RCMP circles. IF it’s true and can be proven to be true he’s as bad as an impaired driver and should be sentenced heavily. He won’t be...impaired drivers get not much more than a slap on the wrists all too often. That isn’t right either. There’s simple negligence, which is running a Stop sign, and there’s gross negligence, which is texting and driving or impaired driving. I hope his sentence appropriately reflects the situation

If it’s simple negligence then it doesn’t make sense to hand out a sentence that destroys his and his family’s lives. But if it’s gross negligence he should pay a stiff price. Until the details come out in the trial we won’t know which is the case.