Speculation: Should the Flyers Consider Including Koney To Get Panarin?

[dats81]

I can't help thinking that you should leave a door open when a big name like Panarin becomes available.
That guy is a PPG scoring machine.

Not saying I would or that the Flyers should. It's tough.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Wow...this is a lot tougher than I thought. I went through both processes like "Of course, Panarin is elite" and also "Absolutely not, TK is a future core, could score 35 goals"

I think you make that move if you REALLY think you can win the cup this year. Which the Flyers aren't. The goaltending is still too trashy for a cup contention.

If you had Hart just coming into his prime, lets say coming off a borderline Vezina year and TK was in this spot, sure, you take the chance to get an 80 pt winger.

 

[Rebels57]

Artemi Panarin is a LW.

We already have a better 1st line LW named Claude Giroux. We also have a freshly inked JVR for 2nd line LW and promising sophomore Oskar Lindblom for 3rd line LW.

If we were to trade Konecny, who by the way is 5 years younger and a lot further away from a massive contract, we would have Simmonds back in our top 6 in 18-19 and then if he walks who knows what our RW situation looks like going forward.

This is an extremely easy no. Hes a great player but a bad fit here.

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Trading prospect with huge upside for one year rental after having a career year? Is clarke back as a gm?

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

The results are pretty funny. TK is a man on fire out there. I love what he brings. I put TK a little below Provy in the do not touch order. The fact that we got both in the same draft is just crazy.

Chicago got panarin in the same year. Food for thought.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Artemi Panarin is a LW.

We already have a better 1st line LW named Claude Giroux. We also have a freshly inked JVR for 2nd line LW and promising sophomore Oskar Lindblom for 3rd line LW.

If we were to trade Konecny, who by the way is 5 years younger and a lot further away from a massive contract, we would have Simmonds back in our top 6 in 18-19 and then if he walks who knows what our RW situation looks like going forward.

This is an extremely easy no. Hes a great player but a bad fit here.

From my understanding he really hasn't played much at all on the right side either (I could be wrong). While we would have possibly the best group of left wingers in league, it seems like poor asset management to double down on the least important position in hockey.

 

[Tripod]

It would just be dumb to trade for a guy who has expressed to CBus he only wants to play in certain markets, and we are not one of them.

Let them keep him...then lose im for nothing to a West coast team. That's what I wish.

 

[FlyTimmo]

It would just be dumb to trade for a guy who has expressed to CBus he only wants to play in certain markets, and we are not one of them.

Let them keep him...then lose im for nothing to a West coast team. That's what I wish.

I think he just wants a large market. He expressed interest in LA, Chicago and NY. I think he would probably stick with Philly. Nevertheless, still not a deal I want to make at this moment.

 

[Tripod]

I think he just wants a large market. He expressed interest in LA, Chicago and NY. I think he would probably stick with Philly. Nevertheless, still not a deal I want to make at this moment.

I talk to him if he is a UFA. I just don't trade good assets for him.

 

[TheKingPin]

Even if he is elite he could make 10 million a year soon. For a wing. TK and him could be just as productive after a few years.

 

[Doodootheclown]

Flyers Season in Review: Travis Konecny
"With Giroux and Couturier, Konecny scored at 5-on-5 not merely at the level of a first liner, but like a true superstar. He racked up 31 total points in the situation, good for a Points/60 rate of 3.03. For reference, Connor McDavid led the NHL over the full season with a 3.20 Points/60 rate at 5v5, and Nathan MacKinnon was second at 3.00. You read that right — during his 43 games on the Flyers’ top line, Konecny scored at an efficiency rate superior to every single forward in hockey aside from the consensus best player in the world."

I hang on to a 21 year old winger capable of that. It is a small sample size of 43 games, and he obviously isn't the one driving that line. That being said as long as TK is playing in the top 6, and not being made to try and carry a third line of dreck I think he is an elite winger today.

 

[Juicy Pop]

I'd lose it if we traded Konecny.

 

[flyersfromquebec]

If 18-19 we make the playoff and get to the second round, I think Hextall will go all in in UFA. With Frost and Hart likely ready, he can make a big splash in off season with 1 of Panarin or Seguin. I think more and more UFAs will go the distance "Tavares like".

We will have more then enought cap space to make it happen. Bridge to Konecny, Sanheim and something around 7millions for Provorov. Lyon and Hart in goal. 9 to 10 millions to either Panarin or Seguin and we still have 10 to 14 millions cap space left. We could be the NBA Warriors lollll.

Bottom line, dont trade, do like Toronto and be patient.

 

[deadhead]

Flyers Season in Review: Travis Konecny
"With Giroux and Couturier, Konecny scored at 5-on-5 not merely at the level of a first liner, but like a true superstar. He racked up 31 total points in the situation, good for a Points/60 rate of 3.03. For reference, Connor McDavid led the NHL over the full season with a 3.20 Points/60 rate at 5v5, and Nathan MacKinnon was second at 3.00. You read that right — during his 43 games on the Flyers’ top line, Konecny scored at an efficiency rate superior to every single forward in hockey aside from the consensus best player in the world."

I hang on to a 21 year old winger capable of that. It is a small sample size of 43 games, and he obviously isn't the one driving that line. That being said as long as TK is playing in the top 6, and not being made to try and carry a third line of dreck I think he is an elite winger today.

The whole point of gathering top young talent is to let them grow up, and get great production at a manageable cap hit.
Panarin put up great numbers because he played a lot of minutes, 2.27, 2.27, 2.08 pp/60 - his three NHL seasons at 24-26 years old.
He's at his peak, will be 28 as a free agent after next season - so you'll be paying $10+M a year until he's 34 or 35.
Konency, playing half the season with scrubs, also had 2.27 pp/60 at AGE 20.

I wouldn't trade Konency straight up for Panarin even if Panarin was signed to a reasonable UFA contract, we have another low cost year of Konency, then we can sign him to a long-term RFA extension. Konency isn't as good as Panarin right now, but has far more upside. And TK is more physical while bringing a similar package of speed and offensive skills.

 

[DancingPanther]

Let it be known that I vote the absolutely not option but won't click it because I want to keep it at 69%

 

[Striiker]

Trading TK would be a horrific mistake.

We saw how insane he was last year... if he was where he belonged from the start, he could have easily scored 30+ goals. Perfect fit for the top line, while being young and cheap too. Only thing holding him back is lack of top PP usage.

 

[wankstifier]

Voracek+ for Panarin would be my preference

 

[Rebels57]

Voracek+ for Panarin would be my preference

Id prefer to not nerf our RW depth to bolster our already crowded LW. I also would not include a plus because Jake is locked up for 5 more years at nearly 2 million less than Panarin will likely get on his next deal.

 

[wankstifier]

Id prefer to not nerf our RW depth to bolster our already crowded LW. I also would not include a plus because Jake is locked up for 5 more years at nearly 2 million less than Panarin will likely get on his next deal.

Giroux, Konecny and Panarin can play both sides.

Panarin's worth more than Voracek.

 

[phlocky]

My question is why should we trade TK and a 1st (the likely cost) to pay Panarin 7+mil when we could keep all our assets and just re-sign Simmonds??? I mean if we are going to put ourselves in cap hell why not keep our elc players?