Management Should Papa Jacobs take the keys away from Charlie?

[DKH]

Yes Id take Yandle, and Chia seems to be doing fine in Edmonton now even after trading Hall. Please let me know when our 3 first round picks we got last year do anything. Pasta was also drafted by Chia with Gretskys help.

If Charlie misses this year. Hope he is gone, I dont trust his leadership one bit. I dont see how anything positive can be said about his performance, probably the worst mind in hockey. Cam! Cam! can you help me out!

My favorite Chiarelli move was dealing 16 & 33 for Reinhart

I wish he did that deal here.

That deal alone would consume 90% of every thread post rant

 

[LSCII]

What exactly would papa do differently than junior? Seems to me, that it would be business as usual, but with an absentee owner instead of one locally. Either way, there are other changes that need to be made organizationally before Charlie gets the gate. If you want to shake things up, start with firing Cam. That would be a far more impact firing than just having JJ take back over from his son.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Holy moly me oh my, we are on to Charlie now

Only 35 games left I'm ready for catchers and pitchers

I dont mind being alone on this one, I think every time Charlie speaks or acts the Bruins brand is hurt. I will patiently wait till his exodus lol however i couldnt resist this thread

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I dont mind being alone on this one, I think every time Charlie speaks or acts the Bruins brand is hurt. I will patiently wait till his exodus lol however i couldnt resist this thread

His Dad OWNS the team.

You will be waiting a long, long time for Charlie's exodus

Even if you were correct and Charlie was a big part of the problem (which is not the case IMO), changes would be made internally and his responsibilities would change without us ever knowing. JJ is not going to throw his kid under the bus.

 

[KrejciMVP]

His Dad OWNS the team.

You will be waiting a long, long time for Charlie's exodus

Even if you were correct and Charlie was a big part of the problem (which is not the case IMO), changes would be made internally and his responsibilities would change without us ever knowing. JJ is not going to throw his kid under the bus.

yuck how depressing

 

[BMC]

wondering out loud if Cam and not Charlie is the issue?

I have been wondering the same thing myself. IMO his personality is much more dominant than Charlie Jacobs' or Don Sweeney's for that matter.

As for "taking the keys away" from Charlie- I don't think this is realistic. Jeremy Jacobs is in his 80s, he's stepping away from running his companies and frankly there isn't time for him to see if any of his grandchildren might be capable of taking over the hockey team if they want to keep it in the family.

 

[Saxon Eric]

You'll never see Jacobs on Jacobs crime

 

[smithformeragent]

You'll never see Jacobs on Jacobs crime

They could keep the title for Charlie and dump Neely to basically hire someone from the outside to be the hockey czar.

Bring in someone to work under him as GM etc.

 

[BMC]

They could keep the title for Charlie and dump Neely to basically hire someone from the outside to be the hockey czar.

Bring in someone to work under him as GM etc.

I would definitely be on board with this

 

[Fenway]

I have been wondering the same thing myself. IMO his personality is much more dominant than Charlie Jacobs' or Don Sweeney's for that matter.

As for "taking the keys away" from Charlie- I don't think this is realistic. Jeremy Jacobs is in his 80s, he's stepping away from running his companies and frankly there isn't time for him to see if any of his grandchildren might be capable of taking over the hockey team if they want to keep it in the family.

Papa Jacobs turns 77 in a few days and seems to be in good health.

Delaware North overall has been struggling the past few years and lost a major contract with the US Government and have lost contracts with a few venues to a Chicago based company Levy that is partially owned by the Wirtz family.

http://www.levyrestaurants.com/venues/

DN has always considered Boston a separate division of the family business and now they have finally decided to develop around North Station. The Bruins themselves are owned directly by Jeremy and his wife and TD Garden is owned by Delaware North.
DN is 100% owned by the family but the concession business is becoming more competitive.

Those of us who go to the games regularly have notice that the in-game presentation (not counting the game itself) has declined in the past few years. The Bruins have never been known to be fan friendly with customer service and promotions and I thought that would get better under Charlie but it has gotten worse.

On a personal note my family has had season tickets since 1948 and while they are in my name my nephew uses the tickets but he is at the end of his rope. He lives on the Cape and he doesn't want to deal with downtown anymore.

Something drastic needs to be done now to keep the entire business relevant.

 

[Therick67]

I'd love to know what Charlie and Cam do on a daily basis.

I'd also love to know why Charlie appears to have no balls? Daddy owns the team, step up or step out and go find another job.

This organization gives me a headache.

 

[Fenway]

I would definitely be on board with this

Lou Lamoriello would have been the perfect czar with his Rhode Island roots but everyone thought he would be with New Jersey for life but he wound up in Toronto. Brian Burke could be a possibility and he too has New England roots.

If I was Jacobs I would take a run at getting Stan Bowman away from Chicago. With John McDonough as president of the Hawks, Bowman can not rise any higher.

I doubt that he would be interested but why not approach Robert Gordon Orr?

 

[smithformeragent]

Fenway, any info you can share in terms of how interested Jacobs would be in selling?

Let's say on a scale of 1-100.

 

[ReggieMoto]

I doubt that he would be interested but why not approach Robert Gordon Orr?

How different would this be from the status quo? Personally, I think heroes and idols should keep their distance from the front office, unless they are already *successfully* acting in that capacity somewhere else.

 

[Fenway]

How different would this be from the status quo? Personally, I think heroes and idols should keep their distance from the front office, unless they are already *successfully* acting in that capacity somewhere else.

Bobby over the past 2 decades as an agent knows the ropes in developing talent. There is no indication that Cam has any idea at that level.

A couple of years ago I saw Bobby watching a high school game in Rhode Island.

 

[Fenway]

Fenway, any info you can share in terms of how interested Jacobs would be in selling?

Let's say on a scale of 1-100.

My gut feeling is 0.

 

[Ace0813]

Jacobs seems like a meek little kitten whenever he's doing anything in front of the fans. The guy should have been handed the keys to the Accounting Department of the Bruins, not leading the entire team.

 

[Fenway]

Jacobs seems like a meek little kitten whenever he's doing anything in front of the fans. The guy should have been handed the keys to the Accounting Department of the Bruins, not leading the entire team.

Keep in mind that Papa Jacobs owned the team for 30 years and the first time most of us had ever heard him speak was after Thornton was traded when he angrily argued with Ordway on WEEI.

 

[Ace0813]

Keep in mind that Papa Jacobs owned the team for 30 years and the first time most of us had ever heard him speak was after Thornton was traded when he angrily argued with Ordway on WEEI.

Did you watch the McAvoy pick live? Yeesh.

 

[chizzler]

I dont mind being alone on this one, I think every time Charlie speaks or acts the Bruins brand is hurt. I will patiently wait till his exodus lol however i couldnt resist this thread

What exactly would papa do differently than junior? Seems to me, that it would be business as usual, but with an absentee owner instead of one locally. Either way, there are other changes that need to be made organizationally before Charlie gets the gate. If you want to shake things up, start with firing Cam. That would be a far more impact firing than just having JJ take back over from his son.

I don't know. If Cam has such a big influence, Clode would be gone already. Doesn't seem to like him and his low scoring system.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Bobby over the past 2 decades as an agent knows the ropes in developing talent. There is no indication that Cam has any idea at that level.

A couple of years ago I saw Bobby watching a high school game in Rhode Island.

This is pure speculation.

Orr may well know the ropes in developing talent (whatever that means exactly)...or he may not. I'm not sure what being an agent has to do with it one way or another? I watch high school and college hockey all the time.

Maybe I should throw my name in to the ring?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I don't know. If Cam has such a big influence, Clode would be gone already. Doesn't seem to like him and his low scoring system.

Yeah, Cam has never really hidden his disdain for Clode's system. Like most things, I'm sure it's decision by committee.

 

[KnightofBoston]

It depends on what role they take behind the scenes


For Charlie to come out and
publicly (or was it jeremey?) and say he expects a "deep run" indicates to me that they may be putting too much pressure on certain parts and it's Having a negative cascade effect on decisions being made


For one, I think Sweeney is good at development but not necessarily good at identifying NHL talent, and it has cost him and the team at times

For example, having the contract of Hayes and Miller/McQuaid and that it could have been spent on an upgrade to the wings or defense is a problem, he overvalued both. He overvalued Belesky to a degree as well.


Sweeney may end up going down as a guy that helped this team compete long term but didn't do enough himself to stay long term, the next gm will get the majority of credit if they win a cup sort of thing - even if key pieces to the cup are guys Sweeney brought in

 

[smithformeragent]

It depends on what role they take behind the scenes


For Charlie to come out and
publicly (or was it jeremey?) and say he expects a "deep run" indicates to me that they may be putting too much pressure on certain parts and it's Having a negative cascade effect on decisions being made

It was the old man.

 

[Fenway]

This is pure speculation.

Orr may well know the ropes in developing talent (whatever that means exactly)...or he may not. I'm not sure what being an agent has to do with it one way or another? I watch high school and college hockey all the time.

Maybe I should throw my name in to the ring?

When Vesey was playing in a summer league in Foxborough it was well documented here that both Julien and Sweeney went down to see him but Cam was never spotted.