Should awards voting be held off until the end of the playoffs?

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  1. Brobust Registered User

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    Why is it that massive playoff failures are excused when giving out awards?
     
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    Tough otherwise... cause what if an unreal player is on a team that is completely rebuilding and is a bottom feeder... can't really fault that player for being on a rebuilding young team
     
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    It's almost as if playoff performances are irrelevant in awards voting since they are for regular season
     
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    I think go the opposite way and have all voting occur before the playoffs. I would like to see the Conn Smythe voting before the playoffs because I think they give playoff games too much focus on that award.
     
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    Because there’s a separate trophy for the most valuable player during the playoffs
     
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    No.

    There's already an award for the postseason. The Smythe.

    Leave it as is.
     
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    No. Lots of outstanding players don't get the chance to play in the playoffs (i.e. Adam Fox, Patrick Kane, John Gibson, Anze Kopitar, etc.).
     
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    I personally think that there should be more playoff awards too. But that’s just me
     
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    No because people will start arguing X does not deserve the Hart because his team did not win the cup. Then the Hart will essentially be another Conn Smythe.
     
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    Didn't you answer your question in the subject line of the thread?
     
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    Because the awards are based on regular season performance.
     
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    I think having a "Wayne Gretzky" award given to the most outstanding player of the year - combining playoffs + regular season - could be a cool new award.
     
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    But you'll find 27 fanbases agreeing right now that the regular season doesn't matter.
     
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    I thought the hypothetical Wayne Gretzky award was going to go to the player with the most points in the playoffs.
     
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    What award are you mad about?
     
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    No, they shouldn't. Voters would attach narratives to mostly random fluctuations in performance over a small sample of playoff games, and put far too much emphasis on team success in those games.

    I think there's a real chance McDavid would (very stupidly) be denied the Hart this year if voting took place after the playoffs.
     
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    Of course not, only half the league even plays in the Playoffs at all
     
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    it doesn't in relation to winning the Stanley cup

    what do regular season awards have anything to do with that. you're comparing two completely separate things
     
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    since they are REGULAR SEASON awards, I'm gonna go with no.
     
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    Nope, only the cup winning team should get awards
     
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    No because while it does matter the people voting will put too much weight into the playoffs.
     
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    Because the awards are for the regular season, that is why. There is an award for the playoffs, it is called the Conn Smythe Trophy.
     
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    Probably because most awards are for the regular season?
     
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    He thinks Scheifele earned a Lady Byng this post season.
     
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    we should do the draft lottery mid-season. There I said it
     

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