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... I honestly don’t know how surprised I am; my prejudice towards you personally is that your interest is pretty niche amongst your countrymen :)


Even among North American hockey fans, I’d suspect that SHL hockey is mostly of interest to some expats, the most hardcore hockey aficionados, draft geeks and fans of certain teams and their prospects, whereas hockey fans in general care about the SHL as much as I do about Liiga or KHL, meaning that I wouldn’t really ever go out of my way to watch any games.

Not sure about the UK, but in terms of sports viewership in the US the entire sport can be considered "niche".

That being said, many of us would prefer live games - be it SHL, KHL or even Liiga as opposed to the archived games or studio productions that now dominate sports programming in lieu of live content.

Further, with many future or former NHL, NCAA and even CHL players skating overseas there would be interest in following teams - and I'd imagine marketing opportunities for team sweaters, apparel etc.
 

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Not sure about the UK, but in terms of sports viewership in the US the entire sport can be considered "niche".

That being said, many of us would prefer live games - be it SHL, KHL or even Liiga as opposed to the archived games or studio productions that now dominate sports programming in lieu of live content.

Further, with many future or former NHL, NCAA and even CHL players skating overseas there would be interest in following teams - and I'd imagine marketing opportunities for team sweaters, apparel etc.
I concur, I don't understand why we can't subscribe to the SHL or Liiga here in North America? The SHL and Liiga would increase their revenue and add more fans to their product. I don't get it?
 

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Luleå’s president has said that the organization can expect to lose around 30m SEK, if the 50 people limit was to be upheld throughout the season. I don’t know what’s likely, but if we can start filling the arenas later in the spring and in the playoffs, I’d guess that those 7-8m SEK should be able to go a long way in cushioning the financial setback.
 

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This may just be the obvious answer, but among the 2 young dmen on Skelleftea, does broberg look immensely better than Adam Wilsby at this point when actually playing? Or is it just projected potential where he has the advantage?
 
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This may just be the obvious answer, but among the 2 young dmen on Skelleftea, does broberg look immensely better than Adam Wilsby at this point when actually playing? Or is it just projected potential where he has the advantage?

I’m not following Skellefteå but Broberg is heavily relied upon by the team and has looked impressive, the little I’ve caught. I think he’s legit.

Wilsby is slightly older, however still gets a bit sheltered in comparison to Broberg. A fan of their team should be able to provide you with better insight.
 
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This may just be the obvious answer, but among the 2 young dmen on Skelleftea, does broberg look immensely better than Adam Wilsby at this point when actually playing? Or is it just projected potential where he has the advantage?

They are at about the same level, but Wilsby is definately the fan favored of the two. Wilsby is less prone to mistakes and has a calmness to his game, especially at puck handling.
Wilsby is great on our blueline, and has really good offensive instincts and great puck handling. Now, I know that to become a blueline d-man in the NHL means battling with fierce competition. Our club has contributed with quite many NHL d-men over the last 10-15 years (but not as many forwards). The one with most similar skillset I would say is Tim Heed. Also an offensive-minded d-man for us, but ended up struggling for regular spot in Anaheim. Maybe the Heed-comparison/projection isnt intriguing(?) but if you get that out of a 4th rounder, maybe not that bad (Heed was mostly a 7D in ANA with occasional additional minutes at injuries). But Wilsby is of course still young and if he can develop into a slightly better version of Heed, then maybe he can take that final step to a regular spot that Heed never really did.
The reason Broberg is not a fan favorite is much due to him being something of a risk-taker with the puck, and when it doesnt work out, you sigh. Broberg has clearly been getting the favour of being ahead in our depth chart. Maybe because coaches thought his bigger body and presence in own zone gives him an edge regarding the defensive duties. Wilsby was on the light and skinny side, and thats probably why he was a little bit overlooked at first year of draft eligibility. He has built muscels and developed physically now. I am a little frustrated seeing Wilsby getting less minutes than Broberg. Broberg is better at shooting.
 
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They are at about the same level, but Wilsby is definately the fan favored of the two. Wilsby is less prone to mistakes and has a calmness to his game, especially at puck handling.
Wilsby is great on our blueline, and has really good offensive instincts and great puck handling. Now, I know that to become a blueline d-man in the NHL means battling with fierce competition. Our club has contributed with quite many NHL d-men over the last 10-15 years (but not as many forwards). The one with most similar skillset I would say is Tim Heed. Also an offensive-minded d-man for us, but ended up struggling for regular spot in Anaheim. Maybe the Heed-comparison/projection isnt intriguing(?) but if you get that out of a 4th rounder, maybe not that bad (Heed was mostly a 7D in ANA with occasional additional minutes at injuries). But Wilsby is of course still young and if he can develop into a slightly better version of Heed, then maybe he can take that final step to a regular spot that Heed never really did.
The reason Broberg is not a fan favorite is much due to him being something of a risk-taker with the puck, and when it doesnt work out, you sigh. Broberg has clearly been getting the favour of being ahead in our depth chart. Maybe because coaches thought his bigger body and presence in own zone gives him an edge regarding the defensive duties. Wilsby was on the light and skinny side, and thats probably why he was a little bit overlooked at first year of draft eligibility. He has built muscels and developed physically now. I am a little frustrated seeing Wilsby getting less minutes than Broberg. Broberg is better at shooting.

Last season I recall Broberg being very prone to ill-advised risks and making boneheaded mistakes, but the last time Luleå played Skellefteå I felt he seemed a bit more collected and sound, however his team was in disarray and got badly burnt. I trust your instincts though given that you’re a fan of the team.

With Luleå I feel that I’m usually able to trust the coaches, despite popular opinion. Many wanted and expected Nils Lundkvist to take a big step in his development earlier on that he did, but I think him still getting sheltered in his D+1 year bore fruit in the following season. This year Victor Berglund has been a revelation on the blue line, but he’s been frightful in his own end and thus he’s getting a lot of mileage from some fans based on his offensive output with sheltered minutes next to Erik Gustafsson. You’ll notice, however, that Nils Lundkvist tends to replace Berglund in that spot when the team’s down and that Berglund’s rarely on when there’s a face off in the defensive zone, especially in close games or when the team is down.
 

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Any feedback on Cehlarik? Dude is leading the SHL in goals. Top 5 points.
All I know is that he recently changed the agent. Aljoša Pilko is a leading agent with foreigners in the KHL. He works with the SHL & NL as well.

 

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Any feedback on Cehlarik? Dude is leading the SHL in goals. Top 5 points.

I know that Leksand’s top line broke the fantasy league I’m in, with Cehlarik and Camper being way underpriced. They really dropped the ball on putting a value on Cehlarik, he struggled breaking into a scoring line for perennial contender Bruins, but someone should have figured he was likely to be a hit on a SHL top line. I guess JFK was in a similar situation, though, and hasn’t had the same production, but he went to a deeper team and has had a lot on his mind off-ice.

Cehlarik plays 22+ minutes per game, he’s a decent skater, has a wicked shot, is smart, strong. Very high SHL level player, I think he’s ready for an NHL second line or so.
 

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I know that Leksand’s top line broke the fantasy league I’m in, with Cehlarik and Camper being way underpriced. They really dropped the ball on putting a value on Cehlarik, he struggled breaking into a scoring line for perennial contender Bruins, but someone should have figured he was likely to be a hit on a SHL top line. I guess JFK was in a similar situation, though, and hasn’t had the same production, but he went to a deeper team and has had a lot on his mind off-ice.

Cehlarik plays 22+ minutes per game, he’s a decent skater, has a wicked shot, is smart, strong. Very high SHL level player, I think he’s ready for an NHL second line or so.

Great to hear...I'm a fan however realized his skating was holding him back. He was good for pp and limited regular minutes but would never make it on a bruin pk. Curious to know if he's been playing PK.
 

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Great to hear...I'm a fan however realized his skating was holding him back. He was good for pp and limited regular minutes but would never make it on a bruin pk. Curious to know if he's been playing PK.

He’s sixth among his team’s forwards in SHTOI/game, with 0:41 per game on average. Can’t speak as to how he’s been looking, but I think he’d been on for three PP goals against.
 

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Why did Frolunda bring in Jonathan Sigalet? I know they need to get the offense going.

I’d guess it’s because they’ve been prone to defensive lapses lately, and Sigalet has been miserable and misused in Brynäs. He’s usually a dependable, minute munching two-way defenseman, however it seems Brynäs has wanted him to be more of an offensive catalyst, and he’s not really that.
 
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I’d guess it’s because they’ve been prone to defensive lapses lately, and Sigalet has been miserable and misused in Brynäs. He’s usually a dependable, minute munching two-way defenseman, however it seems Brynäs has wanted him to be more of an offensive catalyst, and he’s not really that.

I haven't been watching too much of late but saw a lot of their games early on in the season until Norlinder got injured. Their D seemed like a strength and I know they are among the worst teams in the league for goals per game, as I believe they are 3rd worst.
 

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I haven't been watching too much of late but saw a lot of their games early on in the season until Norlinder got injured. Their D seemed like a strength and I know they are among the worst teams in the league for goals per game, as I believe they are 3rd worst.

They were insanely stingy defensively for a long time, then all of a sudden they lost 7-1 against bottom-dweller Brynäs, 8-0 against Växjö and 5-1 against Djurgården within a short time span.

It’s no surprise to me that losing Lasch, Rhakshani and Fagemo is being felt for them this season, but I had a hunch they wouldn’t be able to keep those early defensive numbers up (because they were allowing like 17 shots per game on average, and I personally don’t think Niklas Rubin is as good as his numbers have implied). There has also been, in my opinion, an obvious transition period for players and teams to align with a stricter enforcement of obstruction penalties. I think that it’s about half and half, who’s benefited or struggled with these changes. Not sure where Frölunda is found in all of this, but it seems to me that scoring is up.

Uh, kind of lost my train of thought, but back to the point: it’s also a weird season where all teams are hurting financially so it’s apparent that teams are looking for players where they can get them for cheap. Not sure how signing Sigalet is a symptom of this, but perhaps Frölunda is looking into shedding some other contract.

Point is: Frölunda is a strong team on paper that is struggling with its defensive consistency as of late, so I understand the signing of Sigalet in particular. If a team in the SHL is allowing 3-4 goals per game, they don’t usually look to prop up their offense.
 
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Sigalet was an assistant captain and a huge coach favourite on their last title team. They were just severely outbid by Brynäs when he left. Should get tons of minutes come playoff time again.
 
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Frölunda just lost Lennström (loan from Edmonton ended) and Elliott (going home to Canada for about a month since he's wife's gonna give birth) as well and were in need of another defenseman.

that explains it then, didn't know Elliott was leaving, that's big since he's on the top pairing. Hope Norlinder isn't injured or if so that it's minor and he can get back quickly since he already missed some time with the shoulder injury.
 

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How does Victor Berglund compare to Lundqvist and the Gustafson for Lulea?

Like, obviously not as talented offensively, but does his all around game look potentially NHL capable?
 

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How does Victor Berglund compare to Lundqvist and the Gustafson for Lulea?

Like, obviously not as talented offensively, but does his all around game look potentially NHL capable?

Okay, so Erik Gustafsson is not carrying him anymore, which is such a relief as a fan of the team because Berglund was a disaster without the puck in his own zone, and was prone to boneheaded decisions in transition when pressured. He’s receiving sheltered bottom pair ES minutes (played <10 minutes in the SOL against top team Rögle, ~11 minutes against bottom dweller Linköping in a 5-2 win) and is mostly used as a power play specialist now, where he does look very good. He’s got a great shot and good offensive instincts, and he moves the puck and positions quite well in that part of the game.

I think he needs much work still on his overall game, but it’s understandable that he’s having some growing pains as a young player in his rookie SHL season. After the initial hype, I feel like Nils Lundkvist needed that slow D+1 season to settle in and narrowing down the basics while continuing to work on his strengths.

I think all Berglund has that’s comparable to Lundkvist today is his size and shot. He needs to add strength and become more assertive in the defensive zone (which was always Lundkvist’s weakness, however he’s improved immensely). I think Berglund’s a distant long shot to make the NHL as of today, but I can see him becoming a very good SHL level two way defenseman and I can’t imagine a better environment for his continued development than he’s in now.
 
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Any feedback on Cehlarik? Dude is leading the SHL in goals. Top 5 points.

Cehlarik is having a strong season in Sweden. Leading now the goalscoring race with 18 goals. He has a lot TOI, playing on the 1st line with PP and also PK duties. He didn't slow down even when Hrivik was out with the virus in December.
I was surprised with his slap shot on PP. He scored a couple of onetimers from a set play on PP right from the face off. He made a beatuiful play on PK in his last game against Rogle( leading the standing). Used his big frame, stole the puck, made a crisp pass to Hrivik who was all alone in front of the goalie.
 
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