Player Discussion Shea Weber Part II

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  1. TooLegitToQuit

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    He's not perfect and he will make mistakes from time to time. He's human. But his overall game and reliability is top notch. The key is how our top 4D looks IMO. If we can shore up the top 4D even more, Weber doesn't feel like he has to do more than he should.

    I consider this year off a good thing (other than missing him for a year..haha). Look at Markov when he had his Knee surgery. Were talking about smart and skilled D man here. Weber may not have the same vision as Markov but the parts of his game that he is good at, he is very good at and I don't see this disappearing like some are waiting for to happen since we acquired him 3 years ago at age 31.
     
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    Yeah, what about them ?
     
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    They were wrong? You are smart, you could of figured that out
     
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    so what ?

    it's no worse than you being wrong about labeling Juulsen and Poulet as hits already.
     
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    Hey, I'll give you credit if you are admitting that you were wrong. It happens to us all.
     
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    This guy is a great d man. I almost forgot what bodychecking was before he came back. .
     
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    Seriously. He is si much better than all our other D. It's scary...
     
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    The man's a stud ffs. Yes we couldn't have acquired him in a worse way but for the love of god he's an utter beast. I'll admit I was a bit curious to see how he'd fit in with this high flying team but he's looking as good as he ever has with us.
     
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    Crazy how he didn't skip a beat after being out for so long. I had forgotten how much excitement his wind up creates when he's about to shoot.
     
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    I forgot how a top pair dman is supposed to look like. He just does many things better than any of the other dmen in the lineup, including holding the offensive blueline, the shot, and creating loose pucks in the defensive zone.
     
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    With most hockey players it's all they know. Being in rehab while you're missing games is pretty boring I bet.

    Why is it meaningless? Because you're not first? Why not say anyone besides 1st is meaningless because no one recognizes 2nd place Norris finishes.

    What does matter is 1 person named him best, 6 named him 3rd best, 10 4th best and 16 5th best. Doesn't amount to a ton of voting points but it certainly is a positive to be recognized.

    I'm thinking the same. Day and night compared to everyone else.
     
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    Zdeno chara had his straight of best years at the age of 32( same of weber today). In not comparing these 2 dmans. But a top def will stay a top d a long time.
     
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    Does his shot seem different to anyone?

    It still as powerful, but it seems that his wind up is shorter/quicker. Doesn't seem to use those big back scratchers, but the velocity is still there.

    We can see that the Habs are starting to use him and its opening some things up. The team was missing that dangerous point shot. And the fans eat it up, they want to see him blast one.
     
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    It seems that the demise of Weber was greatly exaggerated.
     
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    He's signed until he's 42. Let's give the gloating a rest. His counterpart reached the Stanley cup finals one year and was a Norris finalist the other. Of course Habs fans are going to be sour on the guy until something changes.
     
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    It's meaningless because it's essentially one moron journalist's vote that skews it. His tally is LITERALLY marginal.
     
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    Weber almost miraculously never makes a bad zone exit, or at least very very rarely. He just manages to get it out.

    You might be more alone than you think in turning sour on Weber. The trade should be separate from the player
     
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    Nope. He is signed till he is 40, not 42. His contract is designed for him to retire at after his age 37 season where the last 3 years are only $1M in salary. Zetterberg and Hossa didn't play those $1M contract years, Weber will probably not as well. Insisting that he will and also that he will be a burden is going against the norm on circumventing contracts.

    $7.8M cap hit from Weber at age 33-36/37 is very good value. This whole rapid decline BS is exactly that... BS! Weber will be fine from today till age 37. If Hainsey can do what he is doing at age 37, So can Weber. Of course we would expect some decline but were talking about minuscule amounts here. Weber's game is not build on speed and never was. And he is not getting dramitically weaker from age 33-37.
     
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    We have been waiting for the apparent decline for 3 years now. Yeah, it was a stupid trade (RD for a RD with a 4 year age gap) but I think some jumped on Weber's back a bit too much. In truth, both the supporters and non supporters got trapped in the line in the sand type war in debating.

    Weber is in my top 15 D man in the NHL. 10-15 range for sure.
     
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    33 journalists had him in top 5 though...
     
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    Guys a horse, excellent dman , his decline is over exaggerated for sure
     
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    Shea Weber is what I call a Alpha Male!! :nod:
     
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    Just meant he was not going through the motions in 2016-17.
     
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    Love the way he can just end the opposing teams cycle dead in the tracks. :biglaugh:
     
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