Player Discussion Shea Weber: Oh Captain, My Captain Edition

Is This The End?


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JoelWarlord

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Fully expect a report in the next few weeks saying it'll be closer to 6 weeks than 4 weeks, at which time we'll be out of the race so he'll be shut down for the rest of the season for precaution, then who knows what happens after that.

I dunno, just have no reason to believe anything about injuries coming from the Habs organization.
 

JuicyHam

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Like others have said I don't believe a single timeline this team has for injuries. I remember when Price was "day to day" and coming back soon until he wasn't. Even this season with Drouin and Byron. Drouin's timeline had him coming back over a month ago and when he did finally come back last week he's still not 100%
 

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Like others have said I don't believe a single timeline this team has for injuries. I remember when Price was "day to day" and coming back soon until he wasn't. Even this season with Drouin and Byron. Drouin's timeline had him coming back over a month ago and when he did finally come back last week he's still not 100%
I hope that Drouin is only rusted. We'll see if Drouin will miss some time when the team gets eliminated in the eye of the management.

Weber should miss the rest of the season at this point.
 
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sheed36

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I doubt we see Weber play another game this season but if he somehow ends up missing the start of next season because of this "ankle sprain" and Kypreos is right about it being a long term thing then oh boy.

It's justified though if anyone doesn't trust what the Habs say regarding injuries since we've been down this road before with MB and the Habs and their lack of transparency.
 

eklund the clown

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Weber should have traded .After the serious injury he had and with his age and the wear and tear he has taken it didn't take a brain surgeon to figure this out.Was just a matter of time.Of course Bergevin wouldn't have figured this out.
 

habergeon

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Last thing I'm saying on this subject, other than I'm with waffledave that I don't believe this organization.

I think it's healthy to question things, the more we question things...the more we understand.

Here is what I know as facts....

1) Almost all ankle sprains can be treated without surgery. Even a complete ligament tear can heal without surgical repair if it is immobilized appropriately. They are also reportedly not hard to diagnose.

2) Doctors diagnose a foot or ankle sprain based on the results of a physical exam and imaging tests, such as X-rays or MRI scans. Again I'm told it is not complicated, although grade and severity can be subjective and the source of debate.

3) Our organization has some of the most vast resources at our disposal in the league when it comes to sports medicine, both internally with team staff and including access to some of the pioneers in sports medicine at McGill University.

4) On our staff, since the 60'sLeading our internal staff is Dr. Mulder, who was Chief Surgeon at the Montreal General has worked with McGill Sports Medicine Centre folks for the last 25 years, and served as President of the NHL Team Physicians Society for 3 years, in addition to his 57 years...57!.... working directly with the Canadiens dealings with a NHL players and related injuries.

5) The person Weber flew to meet is an Dr. Robert Anderson, who specializes in Orthopedic Foot and Ankle Surgery and is a leader in that regard in sports medicine.

6) Dr. Anderson performed Weber's last foot surgery, which put him out just about 6 months.

This is what I know as fact, that's not speculation. Put together, they create a lot of questions.

Am I or any other fan to believe Dr. Mulder, our own trainers and medical staff and the folks at McGills Sports Medicine Centre could not diagnose an ankle sprain? Is it me or does this not make sense and leave more questions than answers.

Good on Nick Kypreos on standing by his tweet, and to those drinking the Kook Aid, I'd suggest some caution and advise you to look up Jonestown and see how that worked for those following blindly.
 

M.C.G. 31

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Immediate reaction after seeing Lavoie’s tweet was “lol, this is an MB team.” I don’t believe the timeline at all, but it’s good that his career likely isn’t over.


I guess we’ll see him at camp in September... unless this is the most egregious lie of them all when it comes to medical stuff and he’s on the LTIR forever anyways.
 

sheed36

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I hope Kypreos is indeed wrong and what the Habs said is them being 100% honest about this Weber injury. I'm just gonna sit back and see how all this unfolds over the next few weeks.
 
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BargainBinSpecial

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I wonder what he could of fetched as a return if he was dealt before his injury. 4-6 weeks doesn't look so bad, hopefully it's only that.
 

MarkovsKnee

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It's starting to make sense. Kypros reported that Habs thought it was "tendon" issue. Well, an Achilles tendon tear probably is a career ender for someone like Weber.

Any Achilles injury could be reported as an ankle sprain. Habs aren't getting specific. Hopefully, it means if it is the tendon that's sprained it also doesn't have a partial tear.

No way Weber is back this year nevermind 4 weeks.

6 weeks puts it to the last week of the schedule. Montreal will be out by then so they'll be no reason to bring him back.

It's unfortunate that Juulsen's health has also taken a turn for the worse as he looked like he had top 4 upside.

With no Weber our right side is now Petry & Folin. Yikes!

These final 24 games could be really painful.
 

eklund the clown

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Million dollar athletes fly to see specialists, this has been happening for years.
For a sprained ankle.Dr Mulder who has been head of surgery in Montreal General for decades can't diagnose a sprained ankle.Something not right here folks.I am no DR. but played hockey in my younger years.How in the world do you sprain an ankle in skates?
 

Andy

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I guess we’ll see in 6 weeks or the start of next season.

it’s not just the MB regime that has been secretive about injuries, I remember the same thing happening with Markov under Gauthier. The habs are just generally very secretive.
 

sheed36

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It's starting to make sense. Kypros reported that Habs thought it was "tendon" issue. Well, an Achilles tendon tear probably is a career ender for someone like Weber.

Any Achilles injury could be reported as an ankle sprain. Habs aren't getting specific. Hopefully, it means if it is the tendon that's sprained it also doesn't have a partial tear.

No way Weber is back this year nevermind 4 weeks.

6 weeks puts it to the last week of the schedule. Montreal will be out by then so they'll be no reason to bring him back.

It's unfortunate that Juulsen's health has also taken a turn for the worse as he looked like he had top 4 upside.

With no Weber our right side is now Petry & Folin. Yikes!

These final 24 games could be really painful.

I guess it depends on which side you're on. ;) It might be painful for the still optimistic fans here but for the tank/rebuild crowd it won't be painful at all to see them lose.
 
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sandviper

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For a sprained ankle.Dr Mulder who has been head of surgery in Montreal General for decades can't diagnose a sprained ankle.Something not right here folks.I am no DR. but played hockey in my younger years.How in the world do you sprain an ankle in skates?

I’ve never sprained my ankle playing hockey but have hurt my knees many times. That said, Weber is way bigger than I am and a better skater so it’s plausible that on a pivot or a fall, the way he digs into the ice combined with his height and weight, he very well could had sprained his ankle. I know the boot is tight and solid, but a high ankle sprain would extend up the leg well past the heel of the boot.
 
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Who on earth believes Kypreos? He's just guessing as usual,and pretends he had an 'insider' tell him on the down low. I'm really sure Weber's camp said 'we should let Kipper know about this'
 

CristianoRonaldo

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Who on earth believes Kypreos? He's just guessing as usual,and pretends he had an 'insider' tell him on the down low. I'm really sure Weber's camp said 'we should let Kipper know about this'

MB is a genius he knew that he had a mole in his entourage, so he gave different false information to potential moles and now that the information was communicated, he can get his hand on him.

All part of the plan.
 
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