Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by HockeyVirus, Feb 21, 2021.
Pylons have no say
I said "right now". Right now they have a weak forward group with no depth to replace the couple very good players they have if an injury occurs. They can't play Vancouver all the time.
Obviously Weber isn't playing great but he needs a different partner. Chiarot is not the answer.
I actually have both teams losing this deal.
Hard to call either side a winner when it didn't really work out the way either had hoped.
As fun as it is to watch Habs fans panic Weber is still pretty much at a 40 point pace with 9 or 10 goals over a full season. Still looks offensively serviceable.
Is he an elite #1 D any more? Probably not.
Is he still a legit top 4 D? Probably.
Could this weird season and heavy schedule be messing him up? Entirely possible.
They are stuck with him and should just be grateful Petry emerged in time to cover the change. You could do worse than having Weber anchoring your 2nd unit.
Habs fans just need to temper expectations a little, he still has something to give and they will need him come playoff time.
By all means though, feel free to continue the panic
The trade itself isn't bad in a vacuum. However, the direction was. It should've been the moment to implode and rebuild. Trading Subban for future assets would ve been better, but Molson wants nothing to do with rebuilds
It's slightly easier to deal with now that the rules changed and the penalty cannot exceed the cap hit of the contract in any single year. So if Weber retired in the final year of the deal, instead of a $24M recapture penalty, they would face a 4 year penalty. The question is if it would be $6M for 4 years, or $7.8M for 3 years and then the leftover change in the 4th year.
Heck, with Johansen and Duchene, we already have $16M in cap penalties as it is
His save % is under 900. It's turning into a bad situation with Allen's numbers
Weber was a beast in the playoffs last season, which is part of how a 24 seed was able to easily bounce Crosby's Penguins.
I find it hard to believe Weber is now washed up a few Months later.
It worked out exactly how Bergevin wanted. He got rid of Subban. He has a guy people make 1000 excuses for. Shea is never good enough and always gets a free pass. Perfect for Marc.
Can't argue this.
You going to whine about it?
Isn’t Petry the top RD in Montreal now?
You mean a 35 year old, 16yr vet is on the decline...i never wouldve guessed
When that roster was healthy it was full of two way forwards that worked hard and suffocated opposition teams. To attempt to credit that on soup can when he was never defensively strong is laughable.
And then you're missing the most important point that Nashville dumped his contract for scraps which clearly happened for a reason.
There are known and proven mechanics in the NHL to bury such contracts without affecting the teams ability to spend if they want to
Okay bud. Please inform me of how you would have done that from your arm chair GM position in Weber's case without him saying f*** it and retiring which would come with even heavier penalties?
Again, while it would suck getting that cap hit, the recapture penalties are far less now, not crippling in any way.
Where did I say, I would have anything to do with that!?!?
You seem very frustrated, take a walk
Yes, I think most Montreal fans would agree he is.
Weber is still a good top 4 with a deadly shot on the PP and good PK.
Do fans of other teams come to the main boards to bitch about their players too?
There still hasn't been an explanation how you would bury such a contract.
You made the statement. You back it up. Otherwise don't talk about things you have no clue about.
Let me tell you a story about a man named Tyson Barrie and fans from Toronto, Edmonton, and wherever he signs next.
I’d be more than happy to have Weber on my team’s playoff roster FWIW.
I don't think you can bury the contract, but the cap hit is now maxed out at 7.8M, that's not crippling, it hurts but it's not crippling.
I doubt Shea Weber retires though without an injury. Why would he give up money if he could still play? He's not the type, or doesn't seem to be. If he's injured he goes on LTIR.....
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