Shea Weber is no longer a top pairing D.

[HockeyVirus]

The first word that comes to mind is slow. He is just slow in all aspects of the game. He tries to engage physically and gets walked by faster skaters. He's making brain dead decisions in his own end. HIs only redeeming quality is his shot.

Watching what he was vs now is honestly sad to see.

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[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

You seem like the type of person who said that when Montreal traded for him, were proved wrong and now you were waiting since then to make this thread.

 

[HockeyVirus]

You seem like the type of person who said that when Montreal traded for him, were proved wrong and now you were waiting since then to make this thread.

Nope. I actually think he has been really good in Montreal. He's just no longer the player he was.

 

[BM14]

Shea Weber? More like Skates Never, AIR?

 

[Dirty Dan]

MTL is the best defensive team in the north so something is working over there, and its gonna work in the playoffs having a physical D like weber , we see it every year

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

The first word that comes to mind is slow. He is just slow in all aspects of the game. He tries to engage physically and gets walked by faster skaters. He's making brain dead decisions in his own end. HIs only redeeming quality is his shot.

Watching what he was vs now is honestly sad to see.

We said all of that 4 years ago in Nashville. Nevertheless Shea managed to find a way. I suspect he'll continue to do so.

 

[jetsforever]

How come on HFBoards a month ago Weber and Price were the best D/G in the North division and now they're washed up scrubs?

 

[The Turtle]

You seem like the type of person who said that when Montreal traded for him, were proved wrong and now you were waiting since then to make this thread.

Exactly my thought.

Regardless how you slice it this trade was a landslide victory for montreal.

 

[Rec T]

How come on HFBoards a month ago Weber and Price were the best D/G in the North division and now they're washed up scrubs?

For someone with 18k posts ... you sure seem new around here...

 

[swiftwin]

Nice try with the jinx thread

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Exactly my thought.

Regardless how you slice it this trade was a landslide victory for montreal.

Subban helped Nashville get to the finals

 

[HockeyVirus]

Exactly my thought.

Regardless how you slice it this trade was a landslide victory for montreal.

This has nothing to do with a trade.

 

[The Turtle]

This has nothing to do with a trade.

It has everything to do with Weber though which was part of said trade.

 

[The Turtle]

Subban helped Nashville get to the finals

When they were a stacked team...

 

[BenG]

Weber has always relied on a very good PMD by his side to cover for his liabilities. You can see it in his play since coming to Montreal where he will immediately defer the puck to his D partner every single time. (Never skates it and generally does not make an outlet pass)

He also lacks some defensive awareness and lets players walk him regularly. While he is slower, any good defender would have adjusted their positioning over time to compensate.

Also, for someone with such a good shot he rarely uses it. I believe he is bottom five in shots and shot attempts on the Habs being beaten out by almost every other defender on the team.

 

[le_sean]

Weber has always relied on a very good PMD by his side to cover for his liabilities. You can see it in his play since coming to Montreal where he will immediately defer the puck to his D partner every single time. (Never skates it and generally does not make an outlet pass)

He also lacks some defensive awareness and lets players walk him regularly. While he is slower, any good defender would have adjusted their positioning over time to compensate.

Also, for someone with such a good shot he rarely uses it. I believe he is bottom five in shots and shot attempts on the Habs being beaten out by almost every other defender on the team.

No he was fully capable of looking good having Emelin as his partner. Now he doesn’t look nearly as good and he’s awful on the PP.

 

[RogerR]

Big issue going forward with the Habs is the decline of their #1 D and #1 G.

 

[jetsforever]

For someone with 18k posts ... you sure seem new around here...

Wow, didn't realise the post count was up that high now
But yeah, just pointing out how fickle this site is

 

[beardawg]

When they were a stacked team...

PK Subban playing at a Norris Trophy level was what helped make them a stacked team

 

[Dirty Dan]

When they were a stacked team...

i think both sides got what they wanted. weber would not help nashville in the state they are in and hes would be down rthe depth chart anyway

 

[The Turtle]

PK Subban playing at a Norris Trophy level was what helped make them a stacked team

Nashville just wanted to get out of Weber's contract.

 

[BenG]

No he was fully capable of looking good having Emelin as his partner. Now he doesn’t look nearly as good and he’s awful on the PP.

Well, I will respectively have to disagree on both of these points. For Emelin, this was a very short stint overall and Weber was quickly
paired with Markov (a great PMD) until his "retirement".

Concerning the powerplay, he was still able to blast it from the point but was never someone who quarterback the PP unit. The NSH PP was driven by Josi and was regularly a top unit in the league. In Mtl, the PP has been abysmal since Weber cannot direct the play nor can he have a quick release. Most PPs rely on a trigger man for a quick shot which the canadiens lack.

 

[beardawg]

Nashville just wanted to get out of Weber's contract.

They wanted to trade their captain for a lesser player and willingly put themselves in position to soak up over $20m in salary cap hell *because* they wanted to get rid of the Weber contract.

OK.

Subban was great in his first 2 seasons in Nashville.

 

[The Turtle]

They wanted to trade their captain for a lesser player and willingly put themselves in position to soak up over $20m in salary cap hell *because* they wanted to get rid of the Weber contract.

OK.

Subban was great in his first 2 seasons in Nashville.

A contract isn't only about price but also term.

You might want to look at when Weber's ends.

 

[jfhabs]

Habs are playing bad as a team right now. Looking at Weber's play right now isn't really fair.
Why not have this thread in the first 10 games?