Player Discussion Shea Weber: C no evil

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    Weber would not take being considered as a second-pairing d-man. He is a very proud individual. The proof: he keeps playing even when he knows that he is injured and can 't give his max.
     
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    I'd have Merrill Weber 3rd pairing going into the playoffs. Let him focus on just defense and shutting down the other team.
    Chariot and Romanov work well and have way more speed together. Weber is too slow and slows down our pace too much. Kids were flying for the last 2 games. The pace was faster.

    Edmunson Petry
    Chariot Romanov
    Merrill Weber please.
     
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    I’m Convinced Weber was battling injuries all year. Hopefully the time off allows him to heal up for the playoffs.
     
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    Garry Galley went on an on about it. I’m pretty sure he basically just doesn’t know better, and just talks out his @SS most of the time.
     
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    DD said the injury happened at the beginning of the West Coast road trip...
     
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    I gotta say thats been making me laugh a lot also lol hearing all the sports news people saying "oh what a BIG BLOW for the canadiens! gonna be tough without someone like weber in the line up!"
    Meanwhile all us fans actually watching the games : "ehhhh not REALLy tho ...lol"

    Obviously, the whole D still needs a lot of work, but theres absolutely no mistaking his absence has actually been a good thing so far, sorry Shea, but its true.
    Every time a team scores on us, it felt like 75% of the time you would see #6 and #8 out there, and now all of a sudden #8 doesnt look as bad lol
     
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    If we can clinch without Weber, and he can rest until the playoffs, we'll be happy to have him back. We need some heavy Pep style rotation for the next few weeks. Rest is the key to most of our current problems.
     
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    I’m convinced he’s basically done as a top 4 dmen. He sucks, most games I watched I thought he was the worst player on the ice for both teams. He’s just terrible now.
     
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    Speak for yourself.
     
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    Certainly not! Have you seen his defensive lapses? geez man! Seen more than enough highlights that make him look absolute dreadful, a hard pass in my books.
     
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    Eh, I'm fairly certain he was playing hurt. And he can definitely be useful if properly utilized. But playing him with the likes of Chiarot or Edmundson is just dumb.

    The PP thing is crazy though. He's been a net-negative on the PP since before Montreal acquired him. Point shots are, strategically speaking, the worst kind of shot you can take on the PP. Its a last resort. Montreal tends to be way too D-shot heavy at the best of times, but at least Petry can also move the puck well and can skate. Weber is basically a stationary cannon.
     
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    Having Petry around and the way he is playing this year will ease the decline of Weber. Playing Petry 25 minutes, Romanov and Weber about 18 minutes minutes each will be ok next year. After that, we will see what happens. I think he will retire.

    What we badly need is a legit top 4 LHD that can play 22 solid minutes and play on the PP. I don't know waht would be disponible this summer but that's what we need to focus on.
     
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    His issue this year was handling the puck and it was just confirmed that Weber is dealing with a hand injury.
     
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    I think many people may need to realize Weber's issues do not stem from injury but poor decision making. It's actually crazy how many times he wanders in his own zone, leaves passing lanes or players open, or even breakout swiftly.

    His lack of awareness hurts his ability to have good position, his lack of speed enables chances of the rush and his lack of offensive ability inhibits his ability to exit the zone via skating or passing.

    For his entire career, Weber was propped up by fantastic defensemen like Josi, Suter, Markov. He immediately delegates in all zones but the difference is now he is passing to middling defender.
     
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    I think you would change your mind if you were the coach. Weber is not going to play bottom pairing and I doubt you would even try it.

    So it's best to sit him if he was playing hurt than screw around with him playing bottom pairing. What the Habs are doing is spot on. Maybe it took too long for them to approach Weber to talk about it?
     
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    So you think he just got senile? He’s not that old!

    But for real, bad touch on pucks will look like poor decisions.
     
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    Weber might still be useful but in a diminished role. Having him and Chiarot out there so often is detrimental. I never understood why the coaching staff didn't see that. Granted, they haven't played the Leafs or Edmonton yet with this lineup, so we'll see what happens. If they're successful, I say bye bye Weber.
     
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    He has never been good and was always carried by an all-star defense partner.

    His biggest issue is positioning which has nothing to do with puck-handling, skating, etc. He simply lacks the awareness to understand where he needs to be given his toolset. There's 5-10 times per game where he is way out of position and/or leaving opposing players wide open.

    also, what are 'bad touches'?
     
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    This just isn't true and is quite embarrassing to read.
     
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    You don't forget how to play hockey all of a sudden. You may loose a step at his age, but any decent defensemen can easily adjust like Chara, Giordano, Keith, Suter, Markov, etc.

    His gap control should be understandably wider than before but the guy lacks the hockey IQ or awareness on so many basic plays.
     
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    They said his injury was at the start of the last western trip tho...

    There is no way he would have played during mid season when habs had a huge lead in the playoff run. His decline started last season also. It's normal he's getting older , we all said that when we traded for him back then.
     
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    Let Seattle claim him and sign Hamilton please.

    Edmundston-Petry
    Romanov-Hamilton
    Chiarot-Brook
     
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    He fooled the whole league (including teammates,opponents, executives, coaches and Team Can staff ) for 10 plus years while being carried lol.
    Highly unlikely but OK if you say so.
    Did you watch many full games of his during all this "carrying" or just making silly assumptions to fit a narraitive?
    If you did watch him regularly yhru his career You are just plain wrong
     
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    Rest Shea for the playoffs. For once.
     

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