Sharks' season from hell continues: Karlsson out for rest of year

[JD1]

With the three pillars on D and some good up and coming forwards I think the turn around can be quick.

The 3 pillars on D?

You mean

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[Avsboy]

The 3 pillars on D?

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EK is 29, so still effective. Vlasic doesn't have to put up numbers or be mobile, just has to use his head. Burns might go downhill but we'll see.

 

[JD1]

EK is 29, so still effective. Vlasic doesn't have to put up numbers or be mobile, just has to use his head. Burns might go downhill but we'll see.

Burns HAS gone downhill. If you think Karlsson is effective, man you'da loved him 3 years ago

 

[Avsboy]

Burns HAS gone downhill. If you think Karlsson is effective, man you'da loved him 3 years ago

2017–18	Ottawa Senators	NHL	71	9	53	62
2018–19	San Jose Sharks	NHL	53	3	42	45
2019–20	San Jose Sharks	NHL	56	6	34	40

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

These are fine numbers for EK. Similar numbers for Burns. I don't watch SJ regularly but they have a decent roster on the backend. They can turn it around next season.

Not ready to "stick a fork" in them

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Karlsson is still a top 3 defenceman without a doubt. Offensively he's the best, defensively I'd put him top 10

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Blessing in disguise. Broken thumb is meh, so glad it wasn’t his groin.

Giving this guy 6 months off at this point for full-body recovery and conditioning might be the best possible thing that can happen really.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Can't you play with a broken thumb?

I mean, is it totally fractured or just hairline?

 

[PatrikBerglund]

That team desperately needs to move on from Thornton and get a fresh start via a few re-tooling trades.

Couture, Hertl, Meier, Labanc is a respectable forward core to build around but they'll need to draft well. That Karlsson trade really backfired and it will set them back.

Only Couts is a first line forward out of that group, and probably not even that on a contending team.

SJ lacks several high end forwards, probably bottom-5 in the NHL.

I mean, no disrespect, but which teams have a worse top-9.

Hell, who has a worse top-12...

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

Can't you play with a broken thumb?

I mean, is it totally fractured or just hairline?

Season is lost, no reason to bring him back and keeping him out frees up a whole bunch of cap space to take on expiring contacts at TDL for picks/prospects.

 

[Kegsey]

Only Couts is a first line forward out of that group, and probably not even that on a contending team.

SJ lacks several high end forwards, probably bottom-5 in the NHL.

I mean, no disrespect, but which teams have a worse top-9.

Hell, who has a worse top-12...

Bro. Hertl is the best player on the Sharks bar none so the fact that you glazed over that and called him a 2nd liner is laughable.

 

[Puckstop40]

I don’t like seeing injuries for players but I am enjoying the misery of the Sharks. I’m bummed they won’t be making the playoffs though.

 

[greasysnapper]

Karlsson is still a top 3 defenceman without a doubt. Offensively he's the best, defensively I'd put him top 10

Yikes. You know there's more than 8 players in the league right?

 

[greasysnapper]

Bro. Hertl is the best player on the Sharks bar none so the fact that you glazed over that and called him a 2nd liner is laughable.

God willin' he'll be the same type of player when he comes back because he was a very fun player to watch and he was always up there as one of the best Sharks. His injury scares me though. Very few people can come back from a torn acl and mcl much less someone who wrecked his knee earlier in his career.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Yikes. You know there's more than 8 players in the league right?

Your post adds nothing nothing of value to this thread, if there was a delete button I'd tell you to use it

 

[JT Kreider]

Your post adds nothing nothing of value to this thread, if there was a delete button I'd tell you to use it

Karlsson is not a top 3 defenseman overall, and he is certainly far from top 10 defensively.

Pietrangelo
Josi
Doughty
Hedman
Carlson
Hamilton
Jones
Slavin
Werenski
Provorov
Makar
Hughes
Heiskanen

Have all surpassed him

I sure as hell would not trade DeAngelo straight up for him either.

 

[Esq]

Sharks will come back next year.

If you mean they'll be one of the 31 teams in the league, then yes. Otherwise, this team just doesn't look very competitive even with better luck with injuries.

 

[DobHoc]

Karlsson is still a top 3 defenceman without a doubt. Offensively he's the best, defensively I'd put him top 10

What!?....why?

 

[Syckle78]

Feel bad for the way EK's career is going in regards to injuries but man is it great to see that fan base suffer more and more.

 

[greasysnapper]

Your post adds nothing nothing of value to this thread, if there was a delete button I'd tell you to use it

I'm not spreading absolute non-sense like you though. Maybe you need to stay up late and catch some west coast games there bud.

Karlsson is not a top 3 defenseman overall, and he is certainly far from top 10 defensively.

Pietrangelo
Josi
Doughty
Hedman
Carlson
Hamilton
Jones
Slavin
Werenski
Provorov
Makar
Hughes
Heiskanen

Have all surpassed him

I sure as hell would not trade DeAngelo straight up for him either.

The list is a lot bigger. Purely on defense just off the top of my head I'd add people like Chabot, Braun, Suter, Weber, Lindell, Ekholm, Hjalmarsson, Chychrun, Giordano, Pesce etc.

Even on his own team, Vlasic is better defensively. And Vlasic is not the same Vlasic of old who was one of, if not the best shutdown dman in his time. If you're just talking about defense, I don't think he's even in the top 60. He single handedly creates goals with his style of play; unfortunately as he has slowed down a bit, he creates more against than for. It's no wonder the Sharks are playing a decent defensive game today with Karlsson out. They actually have 6 guys making an effort.

I don't even like DeAngelo as a player, I think he's super overrated, but I wouldn't trade him for Karlsson either, pretty much on the basis of cap space per what they provide to a winning team.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Jesus did Ottawa ever fail up with that trade.

They haven't made the playoffs since the trade and their building is barely half full on a nightly basis. I'll call that a fail.

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

Quite a fitting thread title. 17m cap space with Hertl & EK on LTIR, if there's one GM able to pull off a ridiculous win in such a situation, it's Doug Wilson. Not saying the Sharks will be able to turn things around in their favour but they could very well make some interesting moves.

 

[yeaher]

Karlsson is shit

 

[Filthy Dangles]

lol

Backes, David.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Just me or there are more long-term injuries to star players than usual this year?

Eh, kind of normal. Besides, there's only about 7 weeks left in the season so at this point semi-serious injuries are likely to be season-ending only because there's so little time left.

I think the bye weeks are doing more harm than good, especially tying the Bye weeks to the All Star Game so you have a week and a half to two weeks off. I would do away with bye weeks let teams have more time off as the season goes, somehow.

There's really an argument for smarter scheduling here. While you're correct that the bye weeks are causing an issue [5 mandatory days off just compresses the rest of the schedule, especially post-ASG], a chunk of this could be avoided by limiting 3-in-4 scheduling, allowing 4-in-6 only in exceptional circumstances, and prohibiting 5-in-7 completely. If you're playing on back-to-back nights you should be getting 2 days off after the 2nd night.

Will the NHLPA think about that? Probably not, they'll ask for meaningless shit yet again and try to come up with new "solutions" that only cause more problems.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

They haven't made the playoffs since the trade and their building is barely half full on a nightly basis. I'll call that a fail.

Do you understand what failing up means?

The trade was bad. They just so happened to luck out and SJS sucks.