NO. special teams doesn't count against +/-. EN does. McDavid isn't great defensively and he doesn't play much SH. Everyone without blinders can see that. His +/- is not great considering his point totals. he is dangerous in all situations though, i will agree with you there.
TSN: Seravalli: Flames trying to get a right-shot winger
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I think Brown hates Sutter. Also, not sure who the Flames could send back that would make sense given Brown's contract.
Geekie is interesting. What's holding him back at the NHL level?
When a team's powerplay gives up goals, those are called short-handed goals. And they definitely count against a player's +/-.
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Nothing really, except he still needs to work on his skating some. He's an NHL player right now, though. Carolina's simply a Cup contender that has no room for him right now except on the 4th line, where he isn't the best fit. Calgary, OTOH, has a glaring need at right wing where Geekie should become a fixture in.
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I'm gonna guess that Aho/Trocheck/Staal at C and Teravainen/Necas/Fast on RW are the biggest factors for Geekie not getting a ton of NHL time. He is a middle 6 type player so the 4th line isn't really his style. The only player I could see him usurping right now is Fast, but he's a recent UFA signing, so he will be given some rope.
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Are you suggesting they give us a 3rd for Bennett's extra iQ point?
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In all seriousness though, I'm kinda nervous that Sutter and Tre could see Jake as an interesting project. Size, speed, right shot and basically a local boy form the Hitmen.
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Pretty sure he said he no interest in Jake for Bennett, not Jake himself....which might not be so bad. A sick part of me is curious to see what Darryl could do with him.
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Phillips looks pretty ridiculous for the Heat. Complete driver of Stockton's offense from what i've seen against the Marlies. Surprised he hasn't been given a shot yet. Very diminutive but changes direction on a dime, hard to catch physically.
Voracek and Patrick for Looch and Bennett
Patrick has far more upside than Bennet although there's a serious injury liability with Patrick.
Voracek has like 100000x the value of Looch who is literally an anchor.
CGY would have to add and retain on Looch as Flyguys are technically cup contenders now although I don't think they're close (Fly fans will whine and cry but they're wrong - this team is not beating Boston or Tampa)
Phi: Looch ($1m retained), Bennet, Zary, CGY 1st 2022
Cgy: Voracek, Patrick
Zary may pan out to be solid Mid 6 and/or 2/3C but he's few years away. Bennet is cost effective 3/4C and won't need a year off from headaches. Looch is...well...serviceable 4W with a couple years left. Flyers also have to protect Looch for expansion draft which will cost Flyers another asset...
Calgary gets to try and develop #2 OA Patrick into the player he could be. Voracek also gives them immediate help which is important because Gaudreau may not be resigning. Acquiring Voracek shows Johnny Hockey CGY wants to win and gives CGY backup plan in case Johnny doesn't want to resign although CGY should def move Gaudreau if he doesn't resign this offseason.
Nope. At this point, I think there's some serious doubt about Patrick's ability to reach that potential. Max id offer for Patrick is Bennett(50% retained) and a conditional 1st, that turns into a 2nd if Bennett hits 20 points. No interest in Voracek
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Who wants to walk with Elias?
“Right shot winger” is this Flames regime’s “center for Iggy”.
