Pre-Game Talk: Sens vs Isles Dec 28 2018 - TSN5 - 7 pm ET

[AchtzehnBaby]

Their own identity? Whatever could Mr. Boucher mean by this?

He says "it's hard the to put your own identity the first game after Christmas" and "it's usually not a pretty game" " and that I have stopped kidding myself after these past years" -->

Does this mean it is a guaranteed no win?

I love coaches that have no faith in their team nor can they motivate their team. Wow!

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Boucher fighting for his career here. Last time a coach started an unproven AHL netminder here he got canned and publicly embarassed by the owner.

Hardly fighting for his career here. But both options are unproven AHL net-minders if you ask me, and with back to back games he'll play them both.

Besides, playing the Hogberglar tomorrow, might sell a few more tickets.

 

[slamigo]

Hardly fighting for his career here. But both options are unproven AHL net-minders if you ask me, and with back to back games he'll play them both.

Besides, playing the Hogberglar tomorrow, might sell a few more tickets.

McKenna is hardly unproven. Everyone knows what he can do at this point. He is what he is.
Hogberg getting shelled by Ovie and company on a Saturday night start would be horrible. If the kid actually has a shot at being an NHL goalie, don't play him Sat and crush him.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

With a record of .459, the Senators are actually tied for the 27th best record in the league.

When teams have played an uneven number of games, throw the points standings out the window, and rank the teams by P% to be more accurate.

We're 27th by total points too. That changes absolutely nothing.

It'll take a small miracle if we don't pick up a point in this game to stay out of the bottom 3 by the new year.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

McKenna is hardly unproven. Everyone knows what he can do at this point. He is what he is.
Hogberg getting shelled by Ovie and company on a Saturday night start would be horrible. If the kid actually has a shot at being an NHL goalie, don't play him Sat and crush him.

I'll take a rested rookie, playing his first NHL game, over McKenna in the second game, of back to back games.

McKenna getting shelled is better than Hogberg getting shelled?

If Hogberg loses his first NHL start .......... he's "crushed" and can never recover from it, and has to sent a rehab center back in Sweden for the rest of his life?

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

We're 27th by total points too. That changes absolutely nothing.

It'll take a small miracle if we don't pick up a point in this game to stay out of the bottom 3 by the new year.

None of the other Major Leagues is North America, rank their standings based on points, they all, except the NHL use Winning percentage ........... the NHL awards points for losing games, in OT & SO, so they should use Points percentage, to be accurate, when comparing team's records, when teams have played an uneven number of games, which they do throughout the season.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

None of the other Major Leagues is North America, rank their standings based on points, they all, except the NHL use Winning percentage ........... the NHL awards points for losing games, in OT & SO, so they should use Points percentage, to be accurate, when comparing team's records, when teams have played an uneven number of games, which they do throughout the season.

Cool beans. Changes absolutely nothing about what we're talking about.

 

[Thrasymachus]

Hey guys, GL tonight

Clutterbuck, Hickey and Eberle are injured tonight, so the islanders lineup is likely

Lee-Nelson-Ho-Sang
Beauvillier-Barzal-Bailey
Kuhnhackl-Filppula-Komarov
Martin-Cizikas-Johnston

Leddy-Boychuk
Pelech-Pulock
Toews-Mayfield

Lehner (starting)
Greiss

 

[God Says No]

Yeah, Lehner is gonna shut us out.

 

[Micklebot]

I'll take a rested rookie, playing his first NHL game, over McKenna in the second game, of back to back games.

McKenna getting shelled is better than Hogberg getting shelled?

If Hogberg loses his first NHL start .......... he's "crushed" and can never recover from it, and has to sent a rehab center back in Sweden for the rest of his life?

Make up your damn mind; before Christmas the notion of starting Hogberg in the second game half of back to back games with the second game being against Washington was met with the response "what could go wrong", now all the sudden it's fine and dandy nobody should question it?

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

If Hog was going to get a game, tonight make the most sense? That Islanders lineup outside of Barzal and Lee is about as bad as it gets offensively. You really can't expose him to a better match besides maybe Ottawa.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Make up your damn mind; before Christmas the notion of starting Hogberg in the second game half of back to back games with the second game being against Washington was met with the response "what could go wrong", now all the sudden it's fine and dandy nobody should question it?

Hog is not ready to be Hamburglar yet.

 

[God Says No]

If Hog was going to get a game, tonight make the most sense? That Islanders lineup outside of Barzal and Lee is about as bad as it gets offensively. You really can't expose him to a better match besides maybe Ottawa.

i think the rationale is that this is our best chance to get points, so the better goalie starts tonight.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Oh god it's Lehner?!

Well so much for winning tonight....

 

[Thrasymachus]

If Hog was going to get a game, tonight make the most sense? That Islanders lineup outside of Barzal and Lee is about as bad as it gets offensively. You really can't expose him to a better match besides maybe Ottawa.

Islander fan = can confirm. Ho-Sang is an X factor though, Eberle's injury has him finally playing with big minutes. We will see what he can do.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Hog is not ready to be Hamburglar yet.

To be fair, hes probably having a hell of a lot better season than Hammond was having when he came up for the Sens.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

i think the rationale is that this is our best chance to get points, so the better goalie starts tonight.

I wish they'd think bigger picture and have a mind for player development. Would be a great opportunity for Hogberg and a deserved one with how hes played this year.

The results don't really matter anymore. This team is headed to a bottom 3 or 5 finish no matter what. Play a more up beat style and get the young guys into meaningful minutes.

 

[BatherSeason]

I wish they'd think bigger picture and have a mind for player development. Would be a great opportunity for Hogberg and a deserved one with how hes played this year.

The results don't really matter anymore. This team is headed to a bottom 3 or 5 finish no matter what. Play a more up beat style and get the young guys into meaningful minutes.

Especially with how well he played the other day against the Marlies. He should be rewarded with a start tonight. Now he will sit for a week and lose all the good mojo he had. Thanks Ottawa Senators!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

i think the rationale is that this is our best chance to get points, so the better goalie starts tonight.

That's been the rationale all year. Classic Boucher.

 

[solidprospect]

Their own identity? Whatever could Mr. Boucher mean by this?

He says "it's hard the to put your own identity the first game after Christmas" and "it's usually not a pretty game" " and that I have stopped kidding myself after these past years" -->

Does this mean it is a guaranteed no win?

I love coaches that have no faith in their team nor can they motivate their team. Wow!

Sounds like he's had nightmares before and after Christmas.

 

[slamigo]

I'll take a rested rookie, playing his first NHL game, over McKenna in the second game, of back to back games.

McKenna getting shelled is better than Hogberg getting shelled?

If Hogberg loses his first NHL start .......... he's "crushed" and can never recover from it, and has to sent a rehab center back in Sweden for the rest of his life?

What on earth are you talking about? It's simply not a good idea to play a rookie on a big stage against a powerhouse and let him get lit up. Why you say he will be crushed and have to return to Sweden is bizarre. Why do say he will never recover?

And yes, McKenna getting shelled is much better than Hogberg. McKenna is a 35 year old career AHL goalie. I don't think his confidence will be hurt. He has established what his game is by now and has had a good AHL career. Hogberg is just starting out and doesn't need to be embarrassed. It could affect his confidence. Hopefully not, but it isn't a wise choice. The Sens are only contemplating it because of injury and a lack of depth.

Honestly, is anyone on this board saying that Hogberg should be starting NHL games right now?

 

[Sensinitis]

If Hog was going to get a game, tonight make the most sense? That Islanders lineup outside of Barzal and Lee is about as bad as it gets offensively. You really can't expose him to a better match besides maybe Ottawa.

Bailey is pretty good too. But yeah point taken

 

[mat_sens]

I wish they'd think bigger picture and have a mind for player development. Would be a great opportunity for Hogberg and a deserved one with how hes played this year.

The results don't really matter anymore. This team is headed to a bottom 3 or 5 finish no matter what. Play a more up beat style and get the young guys into meaningful minutes.

I agree.

Boucher's comments are also weird. Something along the lines that he can't guarantee Hogberg will get a start this weekend.

Is he really thinking of putting a career .893 goalie on a back to back?

This is the perfect time for Hogberg to start, just odd how it is being handled

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Boucher likely thinks that their best chance to win out of the 2 games is tonight by a wide margin. Starting McKenna is likely believed to give the Sens the best chance to win tonight. If McKenna does start tomorrow, I expect to see the Hog in relief.

 

[The Lewler]

Boucher may be fighting for his career, but he certainly won't be fired until his contract is up. Can't afford to pay any more ex coaches.