Confirmed with Link: Sens sign Nate Thompson (2 Years, $1.65M AAV)

[topshelf15]

No, you don’t seem to want to put any blame on the GM. You act like every team does what we do. I never said this is all on management. It’s a combination of a lot of different things.

PD didnt sign Ryan nor trade for PH9...His biggest move to date was the Duchene deal,cant say i like what we paid ..But in the end i understand why it was done,Sakic knew we had to move Turris and replace him at the same time

 

[topshelf15]

Dorion definitely needs to up his game. No disputing that. Of course, Melynk also needs to provide him with resources. Dorion needs competent staff surrounding him to help.

That's the problem....there are holes everywhere. Cheap owner, inexperienced GM, small office staff, a few bad legacy contracts and no rope from ownership to deal with them, etc.

In the end we all want whats best for this team,I still think with some experienced guides to help develop PD he may actually become a good GM,he does have a keen eye for younger players,and seems to be very involved and hardworking....He needs EM to give him some decent tools

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

In the end we all want whats best for this team,I still think with some experienced guides to help develop PD he may actually become a good GM,he does have a keen eye for younger players,and seems to be very involved and hardworking....He needs EM to give him some decent tools

Me too. He reminds me a lot of Jim Benning. Dude had a disastrous first two years, then slowly started turning things around. Being GM of an NHL team is a hellishly difficult job, even for former assistant GMs. Some teams are lucky and get things working right away, but a lot of GMs have a steep learning curve and mistakes in the first few years.

I think the big problem was the fanbase jumping the gun on the whole "Dorion is a genius" thing. Set expectations a bit too high for a rookie GM.

 

[topshelf15]

Me too. He reminds me a lot of Jim Benning. Dude had a disastrous first two years, then slowly started turning things around. Being GM of an NHL team is a hellishly difficult job, even for former assistant GMs. Some teams are lucky and get things working right away, but a lot of GMs have a steep learning curve and mistakes in the first few years.

I think the big problem was the fanbase jumping the gun on the whole "Dorion is a genius" thing. Set expectations a bit too high for a rookie GM.

Totally agree,he was given a steak as a baby.....We all know he can draft,with proper support he can develop the other attributes that are obviously underdevloped...Such as pro scouting and gauging risk management a little better...He does care this much is certain ,and we all know he will work hard to fix his mistakes...So Iam good with giving him some time to put his stamp on the team

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Me too. He reminds me a lot of Jim Benning. Dude had a disastrous first two years, then slowly started turning things around. Being GM of an NHL team is a hellishly difficult job, even for former assistant GMs. Some teams are lucky and get things working right away, but a lot of GMs have a steep learning curve and mistakes in the first few years.

I think the big problem was the fanbase jumping the gun on the whole "Dorion is a genius" thing. Set expectations a bit too high for a rookie GM.

Were people serious about that? I always took that as straight up sarcasm .. shows you how much I know

 

[BondraTime]

Were people serious about that? I always took that as straight up sarcasm .. shows you how much I know

There are maybe 2/3 who think he's a genius.

Most do not like him, with some who do like him. Somewhere in that middles ground is probably where he should be.

I've been less than impressed personally, but we will see how he handles the next 8 months.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

I agree. He's a rookie and made mistakes. We may as well ride it out and see if he learns from them. We're not exactly in a position to attract competent experienced GMs anyway.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I agree. He's a rookie and made mistakes. We may as well ride it out and see if he learns from them. We're not exactly in a position to attract competent experienced GMs anyway.

...and he just got an extension , so we have absolutely no choice , if we want to follow the team

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Were people serious about that? I always took that as straight up sarcasm .. shows you how much I know

Early on, it certainly felt like many folks were serious about that. This year, it's a much different story.

 

[Langdon Alger]

There are maybe 2/3 who think he's a genius.

That can’t be right.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Were people serious about that? I always took that as straight up sarcasm .. shows you how much I know

thought it was a meme too since he made contentious moves and he was just starting as a GM

 

[Langdon Alger]

I liked Thompson, but I guess I was in the minority on that.

 

[Elvs]

TBH, I would rather have 12 skilled forwards, the ****ing NHL, as you call it, is trending this way. "Defensive specialists" are going the way of the fighter. I would rather have a centre who can put the puck in the net that is responsible defensively. No need for a defensive center if your 4th line center can possess the puck.

Don't see any "defensive specialists" in TB's lineup. Pretty nice looking 3rd and 4th lines in Winnipeg too. These are the best teams in the league because every line that hops over the bench can put the puck in the net consistently. Burrows, Thompson, Pyatt, Dumont, etc. These aren't the types of guys you build your bottom 6 with.

Tampa has Kunitz, Callahan and Paquette. Winnipeg has Copp, Hendricks, Tanev and Matthias. None of these fits your 'skilled forward' criteria.

Teams are more likely to roll three scoring lines compared to ten years ago. I agree with that. But these kind of grinders will continue to fill roles on 4th lines for a long time, if not forever. Because at the end of the day, they are able to produce as much offense as 4th line skill players, who can't outskill the top 3-lines of the opposing teams.

 

[BatherSeason]

Tampa has Kunitz, Callahan and Paquette. Winnipeg has Copp, Hendricks, Tanev and Matthias. None of these fits your 'skilled forward' criteria.

Teams are more likely to roll three scoring lines compared to ten years ago. I agree with that. But these kind of grinders will continue to fill roles on 4th lines for a long time, if not forever. Because at the end of the day, they are able to produce as much offense as 4th line skill players, who can't outskill the top 3-lines of the opposing teams.

Doesn't matter now. See ya Nate! Now Dorion can move on to fixing his other mistakes. Lets start with putting Dumont on waivers please.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Doesn't matter now. See ya Nate! Now Dorion can move on to fixing his other mistakes. Lets start with putting Dumont on waivers please.

Dumont is on a two way contract next year. Do you care if he’s in Belleville?

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

He gone. Closed..