Prospect Info: Sens Board Prospect Rankings 2019 (17th)

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Who's #17?

Poll closed Aug 6, 2019.
  1. Olle Alsing

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  2. Michael Carcone

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  3. Angus Crookshank

    9.3%
  4. Joey Daccord

    11.1%
  5. Jonathan Gruden

    3.7%
  6. Maxence Guenette

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  7. Marcus Hogberg

    29.6%
  8. Mark Kastelic

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  9. Parker Kelly

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  10. Luke Loheit

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  11. Kevin Mandolese

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  12. Nick Paul

    3.7%
  13. Shane Pinto

    35.2%
  14. Jonny Tychonick

    0 vote(s)
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  15. Max Veronneau

    7.4%
  1. SensBrawler

    SensBrawler Registered User

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    Sens Board Prospect Rankings 2019

    1. Drake Batherson (C/RW) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 48.7%
    2. Erik Brannstrom (D) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 83.5%
    3. Logan Brown (C) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 63.5%
    4. Jacob Bernard-Docker (D) - University of North Dakota (NCAA) 31.8%
    5. Lassi Thomson (D) - Kelowna Rockets (WHL) 49.4%
    6. Josh Norris (C) - University of Michigan (NCAA) 40.5%
    7. Christian Wolanin (D) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 58.3%
    8. Alex Formenton (LW) - London Knights (OHL) 51.4%
    9. Christian Jaros (D) - Ottawa Senators (NHL) 23.9% (Tiebreaker)
    10. Rudolfs Balcers (LW) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 32.8%
    11. Filip Gustavsson (G) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 25.4%
    12. Vitaly Abramov (RW/LW) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 28.2%
    13. Maxime Lajoie (D) - Ottawa Senators (NHL) 32.9%
    14. Jonathan Davidsson (RW) - Djurgardens IF (SHL) 40.0%
    15. Mads Sogaard (G) - Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL) 32.00% (Tiebreaker)
    16. Filip Chlapik (C) - Belleville Senators (AHL) 37.00%

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    Added Loheit

    Who Should I Add Next?


    Jean-Christophe Beaudin - Belleville Senators (AHL)
    Todd Burgess - RPI (NCAA)
    Andreas Englund - Belleville Senators (AHL)
    Morgan Klimchuk - Belleville Senators (AHL)
    Viktor Lodin - Orebro HK (SHL)
    Jakov Novak - Bentley University (NCAA)
    Markus Nurmi - TPS (Liiga)
    Andrew Sturtz - Belleville Senators (AHL)

    The poll will be open for 24-48 hours.
     
  2. Micklebot

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    I think i voted hogberg last time so i will stick with him. Daccord is right there too, then maybe Pinto...
     
  3. devbouz12

    devbouz12 Eugene's dad

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    Hogberg forsure. Everyone just seems to have a hard-on for anything that isn't a goalie.
     
  4. Sens of Anarchy

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    Don't add anyone next
     
  5. Fenix Rises 2026

    Fenix Rises 2026 Alfie forever!

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    Just read the 2015 rankings. Sad how these things turn out. Chabot white and dzinger are in the league and the rest mostly busted.
     
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    Well not "exactly" and the situation now is vastly different than it was. The amplitude of the 2011 rebuild was not the same at all. 4 years later in 2015, the pool was really not as good but it's entirely normal since a lot of the good prospects of the recent years had already graduated. That team just had a 99 pts season (which is 35 more than last year). The ones that had graduated in the recent past :

    Mark Stone (23, rising top-6 forward)
    Mike Hoffman (25, rising top-6 forward)
    Mika Zibanejad (22, rising top-6 forward/center)
    JG Pageau (22, rising 3rd line center)
    Cody Ceci (21, rising 2nd pairing D-man, before Boucher/Dorion destroyed him)
    Alex Chiasson (was a really good prospect in Dallas. Didn't end up as a top-6 power forward but is carving himself a decent NHL career)
    Robin Lehner (24, was still struggling to solidify himself as a NHLer)
    Andrew Hammond (27, looked like the best thing since slice bread although I personally knew it was a short term thing)
    Others : Patrick Wiercioch, Mark Borowiecki, Curtis Lazar, Eric Gryba

    And some solid vets (compare that with today)

    Erik Karlsson (25, best NHL D-man)
    Kyle Turris (25, top-6 center)
    Bobby Ryan (28, top-6 forward)
    Zack Smith (27, solid bottom-6 forward)
    Craig Anderson (4 years younger)

    The "crippled" :

    Marc Methot (30, still played 2 more full seasons with the Sens)
    Clarke MacArthur (30 but unfortunately that season was the beginning of the end for Mac)
    Milan Michalek (only 30 but a bit the same for Michalek who just had too many injuries in his career)
    Jared Cowen (graduated in 2012 but was never the same after his 2012-13 injuries)

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    Now, that 2015 pool if we were re-ranking it today would be (at least IMO) :

    1- Thomas Chabot
    2- Colin White
    3- Christian Wolanin
    4- Ryan Dzingel
    5- Christian Jaros
    6- Filip Chlapik
    7- Joel Daccord
    8- Marcus Hogberg
    9- Nick Paul
    10- Fredrik Claesson
    11- Ben Harpur
    12- Francis Perron
    13- Shane Prince
    14- Matt Puempel
    15- Max McCormick
    and some good/decent AHLers : Cole Schneider, Buddy Robinson, Andreas Englund, Tobias Lindberg

    I'm not ranking Mikael Wikstrand because we'll never know how good he could have been

    Look at the top-10 and it's really really not as bad as you made it seem... And there's even some cup-of-coffee players after that

    Sure, cup-of-coffee players aren't really successes but they're not busts as well. It's hard enough to play in the NHL, in fact most hockey players don't last very long and for multiple reasons, but most of the times it's injuries related. That's something that might happen to some guys in the current prospect pool.

    Anyway, COMPARE the talent on that 2015 team and the one right now and I hope for CS than the pool we have today is vastly superior. Melnyk decided to SELL all the best vets on the team for picks and prospects. Pretty useless to look at the 2015 pool, 2012 would be a better comparable, even though nothign compares to the FIRESALE that we've been through

    Finally, if there's at least one thing that seem to have survived Bryan Murray, it's drafting.
     

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