Confirmed with Link: Senators sign Anthony Duclair (1 year, $1.65 million)

[slamigo]

This was a no-brainer. Good signing. Let's look forward now.

 

[saskriders]

Good prove it deal at a good price.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Sorry if this was already brought up, but is Duclair a UFA or still an RFA after this year?

 

[Riceroni]

Sorry if this was already brought up, but is Duclair a UFA or still an RFA after this year?

RFA

 

[Qward]

I think this "show me" contract will determine what Ottawa really has. If he continues as he played last year then certainly will be part of the long term plan. Hopefully he has figure it out, because he could be a Marty St. Louis type of player (not HHOFer) who was discarded many times, and finally gets it.

Would a 2 year contract leave him in an RFA state the way the 1 year does? Or would he have been pushed into UFA waters?

 

[stempniaksen]

Would a 2 year contract leave him in an RFA state the way the 1 year does? Or would he have been pushed into UFA waters?

EDIT: Oops, wrong player.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

He'll be a UFA next summer no matter what.

Next summer meaning 2021?

 

[TkachukNorris79]

He'll be a UFA next summer no matter what.

wait what? Thought he was an RFA again next summer?

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

He'll be a UFA next summer no matter what.

Cap Friend has his 2019-20 contract as "EXPIRY STATUS: RFA"

 

[stempniaksen]

Next summer meaning 2021?

wait what? Thought he was an RFA again next summer?

Thought it was in reference to Ceci, that was my bad. Too much thread hopping today

 

[Beville]

Very good deal, I like it, just a shame we couldn’t lock him up a bit longer!

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Thought it was in reference to Ceci, that was my bad. Too much thread hopping today

No worries

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Would a 2 year contract leave him in an RFA state the way the 1 year does? Or would he have been pushed into UFA waters?

2 years takes him to UFA status.

2 years makes more sense if the Senators are sure about him and cannot agree on a long term deal. The reason being, the Senators cannot pay him any less than 1.65 million if qualified next season, and Duclair could potentially get more than that through arbitration.

So if he would have signed 2 years at say 2M (1.65 Y1/2.35 Y2) that would be better for Ottawa (If they were 100 percent sold on Duclair) because it would cost control him, and if he has another 20+ goal season he'd probably get more than 2.xx in arbitration.

Assuming Duclair was on board for a 2 year deal at a reasonable AAV bump above the 1.65M he got, the only reason not to go 2 years is because the Sens think there's a chance he won't take a step forward, and they don't want to be on the hook for year 2.

A situation similar to this one where 2 RFA years were left was Dzingel. The Senators had Dzingel who was in a similar spot (2 years away from free agency) and they settled buying up both years. There would have been little benefit in buying up just 1 year if the team was sure about the player excelling because of how the qualifying offer/arbitration process works.

The Senators paid Dzingel 1.5 in year 1, and then gambled by giving him a 2nd year at 2.1. They were gambling that Dzingel would be worth more than 2.1 in year 2, and they were right. Dzingel probably would have gotten more than 2.1 if the Senators signed him to a 1 year contract and were forced to go to arbitration.

I think that the Senators handled this perfectly. They got a reasonable 1 year AAV. They didn't lose control of the situation by having to go to arbitration where a high ruling based on Duclair's on paper stats might hurt them. Duclair fits a need on this team (scoring, skill), and there's flexibility to either keep him (at least) 1 more year after this, or to deal him at the deadline as a rental.

 

[coladin]

2 years takes him to UFA status.

2 years makes more sense if the Senators are sure about him and cannot agree on a long term deal. The reason being, the Senators cannot pay him any less than 1.65 million if qualified next season, and Duclair could potentially get more than that through arbitration.

So if he would have signed 2 years at say 2M (1.65 Y1/2.35 Y2) that would be better for Ottawa (If they were 100 percent sold on Duclair) because it would cost control him, and if he has another 20+ goal season he'd probably get more than 2.xx in arbitration.

Assuming Duclair was on board for a 2 year deal at a reasonable AAV bump above the 1.65M he got, the only reason not to go 2 years is because the Sens think there's a chance he won't take a step forward, and they don't want to be on the hook for year 2.

A situation similar to this one where 2 RFA years were left was Dzingel. The Senators had Dzingel who was in a similar spot (2 years away from free agency) and they settled buying up both years. There would have been little benefit in buying up just 1 year if the team was sure about the player excelling because of how the qualifying offer/arbitration process works.

The Senators paid Dzingel 1.5 in year 1, and then gambled by giving him a 2nd year at 2.1. They were gambling that Dzingel would be worth more than 2.1 in year 2, and they were right. Dzingel probably would have gotten more than 2.1 if the Senators signed him to a 1 year contract and were forced to go to arbitration.

I think that the Senators handled this perfectly. They got a reasonable 1 year AAV. They didn't lose control of the situation by having to go to arbitration where a high ruling based on Duclair's on paper stats might hurt them. Duclair fits a need on this team (scoring, skill), and there's flexibility to either keep him (at least) 1 more year after this, or to deal him at the deadline as a rental.

I think you have convinced me that one year is the way to go. Well done!

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He is such a clown.

Garrioch in with the scripted questions...lol

Got a link to that interview?

 

[aragorn]

Well hopefully he improves next yr to the point where he adds some value & Ottawa can move him for more picks maybe at the deadline.

 

[BonkTastic]

Ideal contract for this kind of player at this point in his career.

It's a rare thing to say about this team these days, but this is 100% the right move. No complaints whatsoever.

 

[Back in Black]

I'm happy with it!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Good with this. Hopefully he shows some consistency and signs long-term next year.

 

[supsens]

7 assets!

Cleary they should have held onto everyone untill UFA day. Zero assets!

 

[Larionov]

If Duclair isn't motivated now he never will be. This is his opportunity to play consistent top six minutes and really make his mark in the league. If he does, he cashes in nicely a year from now. If he doesn't, Sens just walk away with no strings attached.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Cleary they should have held onto everyone untill UFA day. Zero assets!

 

[Agent Zub]

I assume less since the team is taking on a risk of an extra year. BTW this is pretty close to what I predicted and @danielpalfredsson did not find realistic:

Player Discussion - Anthony Duclair

What risk? He's quite clearly an NHL player. He signed for one year because he gets to up his value and get a real contract with a real team.

 

[topshelf15]

If Duclair isn't motivated now he never will be. This is his opportunity to play consistent top six minutes and really make his mark in the league. If he does, he cashes in nicely a year from now. If he doesn't, Sens just walk away with no strings attached.

Another added bonus for us ,is he is close to Montreal,which is his hometown...

 

[SPF6ty9]

Anyone willing to bet that Dorion will smugly

Yes