Discussion in 'Boston Bruins' started by Culture of Hockey, Dec 28, 2013.
Big loss, obviously not going to prevent us from winning the cup though
Probably will take some flak, but We beat the rangers in 5 without him and I thought he played like **** in the finals. Nothing against him, but I think what we lose in toughness, we gain in speed and transition. Not overly worried about this loss.
Yeah, I didn't think he was overwhelmingly good in the playoffs either. He can log mammoth minutes and not hurt ya though, so there is always going to be some sting from losing that.
Huge loss, and hugely underestimated player. He is a rock, and the Bruins rely on him a lot. I'm going to miss his occasional big, well-timed hits on the sidewall, especially in the playoffs.
However, I will say that his lack of offensive instincts has really been noticed now that we have the likes of Krug, Bart, etc to compare with. While it is something we always knew (Seidenberg, McQuaid, etc, on the powerplay, or offensively in general... just not much there) it really stands out more now that we have defensemen that actually do have offensive skill.
This still sucks. A lot, and it worries me in regards this playoff run, unless we just accept the fact that we are going to probably both score and allow more goals than usual (with younger, but more offensively gifted defenseman).
I really hated to see this happen. I would think we will see how the young guys affect our game and go from there. If it looks like we need another Top Dman, then we can go after someone at the deadline. Not going to be cheap to get a rental.
Should be fine against most Eastern teams without him. As for him being crap in the final, well, we lost the final.
big loss but the most important aspect of it is the ripple effect it will have on Chara's minutes. It's all about Chara. It's always been all about Chara. Time for Dougie to step up big time. How the hell are we going to limit 33's minutes so he's somewhat "fresh" for the playoffs?
He had a groin strain/pull if not mistaken early in the playoffs, and everyone here, having seen what Seids brings when healthy could see, he wasn`t himself, toss in a hip flexor for Z, and that`s your top 2 shut down D-men not being nearly as mobile and effective as were used to seeing
Rangers had zero offense so his being out was not felt as much in my opinion. Where we need him is against the high offense type teams. I don't think Transition and speed help against guys like Crosby/Malkin as much as a guy like Side's does.
2 Welland Ont. Guys can't hurt, worked well with Danny and Horts.
Might not be realistic but we sure could use him.
Bring back Ference for the playoffs! But seriously, if Girardi is available he would be a good Seidenberg replacement. Another guy that might look good on the B's is Gleason.
Yep. This is exactly the first thing I thought of. The fatigue at the end of the season really showed in the CHI series and we really, really had to find a way to get Z some breathers throughout the season. It's not just about losing Seidenberg, which is vital enough....it's now about vets needing to do some sheltering for the younger guys who will need to step up.
Glad it appears Dougie's soon to return....and the likes of Miller/Bart/Warsofsky will be helpful in the regular season....but those heavy duty Siedenberg minutes will have to be replaced for the playoff run by someone.
I'd love Girardi as a replacement. I'm in the camp of thinking we need a Seidenberg type and I'd only look at UFAs. We need an impact guy but with the rest of the D core locked up through at least next season I don't think we want another contract. Plus UFAs will be a little cheaper. Would be willing to deal Bartkowski for him, would that be enough or would he command more?
Edit: Gleason is signed through 15/16 @ 4 million per. I think he'd be a great fit as well but I don't think we want a contract. If we got a contract like that or resigned Girardi I think that means we say bye to Boychuk over the summer. Could we swing:
Chara @ 7
Seids @ 4
Boychuk @ 3.5ish
Trade @ 4 - 4.5
McQuaid @ 1.6
Hamilton @ 3ish (rookie deal + bonus)
Krug @ 2.5 - 3 (resigned as RFA)
With a real Hamilton contract on the horizon?
Edit 2: More quick math. I see us up around 67/68 next year with a need to replace Iginla (or move people up ie Eriksson to the first, Smith sticks on the 2nd, kid on the third) with the current roster and we'll have to take Iginla's bonus cushion, right? Unless the LTIR money we've technically been saving with Loui and now Seids will help off set that? I forget how that whole deal works.
Dennis Seidenberg calls season-ending injury â€˜disappointingâ€™
â€œVery disappointing,â€ Seidenberg said. â€œItâ€™s tough luck the way it happened, but at the end, thereâ€™s nothing I can do. Itâ€™s all about getting it fixed now and preparing for next season.â€
â€œItâ€™s totally off, so theyâ€™re going to put a couple stitches in the MCL as well,â€ Seidenberg said. â€œSometimes it heals quick, just doesnâ€™t get back to where it was tightness-wise. So weâ€™re going to make sure itâ€™s nice and solid, put some stitches in.â€
Mike Milbury says the Bruins are not a contender with Seidenberg out. And they won't be able to replace him.
Do you agree with Milbury?
â€œThey were (a contender) before Dennis Seidenberg went down. They are no longer that,â€ Milbury said. â€œThis is a weaker conference than the Western Conference. Youâ€™re not going to replace Dennis Seidenberg. Itâ€™s going to take a major trade. Nobody is going to give up a top-flight number two defenseman and insert him into the Bruins lineup just because they want to win another Cup. Not happening.â€
http://www.csnne.com/blog/bruins-talk/m ... up-chances
Throw some duct tape on if and call it good
Seidenberg is not a "top flight #2" though. He's a solid, stay at home, top 4 defenseman. That is what Chiarelli needs to add. The kid won't/can't handle the work load yet. None of them have Seidenberg's toolbox.
Chiarelli needs to move, quickly. Don't wait until the deadline.
What does he know. Islanders still haven't recovered from his blunders.
If Seidenberg is not a "top flight #2", I'd be interested to know who is.
DS was often considered underrated before this latest injury. The longterm nature of this injury and the state of the B's defense without him is going to change that IMO.
The thing is, even though the conference is weaker than the west, they'd only have to go through one western team (in the finals) to win it. So they're still contenders because right now the road is shaping up to be that they'll have to play out of their division and then likely go through Pittsburgh.
It's the NHL playoffs, so who knows?
Sides is a big loss, no ****.
Most of us like to hear ourselves talk....Mike Milbury likes it a lot more than most.
well, it IS his job.
The rest of us prattle on without compensation.
Still contenders as Smith points out. Very unlikely to replace what he brings. Deadline could bring more than expected and show the Bruins gluing things together to get by.
What will knock them out is if Boychuk goes down or the obvious, if Chara goes down.
You keep underrating Seidenberg. The results speak for themselves. Apparently some people forget the revolving door of dmen before Seidenberg came here when Chia struggled to find that compliment to Z.
Even if Boston could replace Seids at or before the deadline with someone who could step up like he has, it takes time to mesh with this system to the point Seids has.
I agree with Milbury on this one, this is a team that needs all the pieces to fall into place to succeed and Seids has always been a huge piece. Maybe if they could get someone like Phillips asap and get him into the system they might mitigate the loss, just can't see it though.
Losing Seids obviously hurts but this is an overstatement by Milbury. They have enough depth on the blueline and enough chips to acquire another top 4 to remain the team to beat in the East.
Obviously you'd rather have him, but he's not a game breaker or even a #1 dman. He's a very good #2. Great teams can win without very good #2's.
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