Seattle's AHL team trademark of Firebird rejected

gstommylee

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Seattle's AHL team name by the looks of it won't be firebirds. Trademark of it has been rejected due to being too similar to a OHL team in Flint Michigan that has the same name.
 

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"The AHL’s Palm Springs site has updated its tagline from “We got Fire, Bring on the Ice” to “We got the heat, Bring on the ice.”

While the group has filed additional trademarks, specifically the Dragons, Sun, Eagles, Hawks, and Falcons, they have six months to appeal the decision.

So the Palm Springs Sun?
 
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An expansion AHL team filed a trademark for the name "Eagles" when they are going to play in the same division as the Colorado Eagles. Lol
And there are already too many birds in the Pacific: Eagles, Condors, Roadrunners and Gulls.
Did they have any kind of a fan vote for this? I can't remember if I had read that or not.
 

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I like the Palm Springs Sun.

When I was in Palms Springs for a week, it was 107 F every day. The DQ was closed in the summer.

We heard an earthquake. It was a 3.2. It sounded kind of like a sharp snap followed by distant thunder with a low pitched rumble.

Either the Sun or the Earthquakes!
 

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There used to be two teams nicknamed Admirals. There are two teams in the ECHL nicknamed Thunder.

"Too close" is meaningless.
disagree, here's why: they rejected Firebirds, did they or did they not, which hasn't been used in the AHL by any ownership since the late 70s, Darryl.... if Flint objects to the Firebirds moniker, you think SOMEONE else would if you read the case summary of the USPTO, as to why this name was rejected...

Admirals means two different things, too, doesn't it, besides the literal translation of a military designation, that's not why Milwaukee is named that....
 

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You can disagree all you want, but you're wrong. And I never mentioned Flint because your comment was about AHL teams with names close to "Heatbirds"...so again, "too close" is meaningless in the context that you used.
 

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When I was in Palms Springs for a week, it was 107 F every day. The DQ was closed in the summer. ...
If they built the HeatFireBlisterBirds Arena (HFBBA) at the top of San Jacinto Peak (10,833 ft. MSL), they might be able to have the AHL's only retractable roof without fear of the ice melting. Die-hard fans could hike up & back, while the weekend crowd could take the aerial tramway up to the venue & back down to their vehicles. Now THAT would be a dream hockey road trip. :cool:
 
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If they built the HeatFireBlisterBirds Arena (HFBBA) at the top of San Jacinto Peak (10,833 ft. MSL), they might be able to have the AHL's only retractable roof without fear of the ice melting. Die-hard fans could hike up & back, while the weekend crowd could take the aerial tramway up to the venue & back down to their vehicles. Now THAT would be a dream hockey road trip. :cool:

We went up there on the advice of my co-worker. It was 70 F. My younger daughter jumped when a coyote howled right after we came off of the tram.

Are coyotes good at climbing? If so, skip the retractable roof idea. They will sneak in and take over some seats.

If not, did the coyotes take the tram to get up there?
 

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We went up there on the advice of my co-worker. It was 70 F. My younger daughter jumped when a coyote howled right after we came off of the tram.

Are coyotes good at climbing? If so, skip the retractable roof idea. They will sneak in and take over some seats.

If not, did the coyotes take the tram to get up there?
I went up in the tram in winter, prob. February. Mid-80s down in the valley, played in the snow on top of San Jacinto. On further review, I reckon the wildlife might present a unique challenge to the arena staff. And I didn't see coyote ticket prices on the Tramway website, so I'll go with them hitching a ride on a California condor.
 

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disagree, here's why: they rejected Firebirds, did they or did they not, which hasn't been used in the AHL by any ownership since the late 70s, Darryl.... if Flint objects to the Firebirds moniker, you think SOMEONE else would if you read the case summary of the USPTO, as to why this name was rejected...

Admirals means two different things, too, doesn't it, besides the literal translation of a military designation, that's not why Milwaukee is named that....
Obviously way off topic on the thread here, but since we are discussing coyotes taking trams up mountains... There isn't another meaning for the word "Admirals". The appliance company changed their name to Admiral around the time of WWII when they were supplying electronics to the military. So the team is named for the appliance manufacturer, but the appliance manufacturer is named for the military term for a naval leader. It doesn't have a different meaning.

If there were two teams named the Bats, and one was named for the flying animal and the other was named for the hitting implement used in baseball, that would be two different meanings.

The two Admirals teams were named Admirals for different reasons, but the word means the same thing.
 

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There used to be two teams nicknamed Admirals. There are two teams in the ECHL nicknamed Thunder.

"Too close" is meaningless.

According to the letter from the Patent Office, it actually gets easier to trademark an identical team name if you play in the same league.

They point to affiliated NHL and AHL organizations that use the same name (their example: Ottawa and Belleville Senators) which is an indicator of an organizational connection. Under this logic, the Thunder name is fine to use as long as the team plays in the ECHL... nobody would believe the ECHL Adirondack Thunder would be in the same organization as the ECHL Stockton Thunder. But if Adirondack were in the AHL, there would be the possibility of someone assuming they were affiliated with Stockton.

Which is all to say, this team could be the Thunderbirds or the Checkers or the Phantoms or the Sound Tigers. But they cannot be the Firebirds or the Bruins or the Swamp Rabbits.
 

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