Pre-Game Talk: Season Preview

Anglesmith

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I'm with you on Nashville. But Winnipeg and Vegas each have some pretty big questions, especially Vegas. And Winnipeg's track record isn't much better than ours or Vegas', do people really forget that they missed the playoffs the 2 years before this past season and were swept in 4 the year before that? Literally the only thing Winnipeg has done in the last 4 years that we haven't was win their division, otherwise it has been eerily similar to us.

Winnipeg
  • Who replaces Stastny? He was only there a short time but he filled their biggest hole in center depth
  • Is Hellebyuck for real? One good season doesn't make him a perennial Vezina candidate.
  • Are Comrie & Brossoit seriously the backup options?
  • Can Wheeler repeat the career highs he set at age 31?
  • Can they replace their depth losses in Armia, Hendricks and Enstrom?
Vegas
  • Can Stastny and Tatar replace Neal and Perron?
  • Can Karlsson repeat a season that was 34 goals and points better then his career highs?
  • Can Marchessault repeat a season that was 24 points better than his career high?
  • Can Reilly Smith repeat a season that was 9 points better (in 15 fewer games) than his career high?
  • Can Haula repeat a season that was 21 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Colin Miller repeat a season that was 25 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Alex Tuch build on a 37 point rookie season?
  • Can Nate Schmidt repeat a season that was 19 points better than his career high?
  • Can Theodore build on his 29 point first full season?

In case you weren't aware, last year every single player in the Vegas top 10 for scoring is either gone (Neal, Perron), was in their first full season (Tuch, Theodore) or set a career high that was significantly better than their previous. Also if you expand to their top 15 scorers, all but Eakin and Bellemare are apart of those those groups too.

Playing into all of that, of course, is the attitude of the team and the way they were able to channel all of their emotion from being "cast-offs" into playing absolutely balls-to-the-wall all season. Sometimes an off-season is the worst thing that can happen to a team like that. The team needed players to outperform their norms, and to do that requires a special kind of focus. Will they come back with that again? Hard to say. It certainly didn't happen when the Flames caught lightning in a bottle.
 

Lunatik

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Playing into all of that, of course, is the attitude of the team and the way they were able to channel all of their emotion from being "cast-offs" into playing absolutely balls-to-the-wall all season. Sometimes an off-season is the worst thing that can happen to a team like that. The team needed players to outperform their norms, and to do that requires a special kind of focus. Will they come back with that again? Hard to say. It certainly didn't happen when the Flames caught lightning in a bottle.
Yep. Speaking of time off one thing I noticed in our schedule this year is we have just one long break, rather than two since our ASG weekend and bye week merge together

As for Vegas, I still say the shooting bringing them together and wanted to bring something good for hat city made far more of a difference than being "cast offs"
 

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CALGARY FLAMES 2018-19 SEASON PREVIEW

Welcome to my 2018-19 Calgary Flames season preview.

The New
New is good, or so we like to believe. In the case of the Calgary Flames, I do believe that change is a positive thing. Gone, are the 2017-18 coaching staff. Gone, are rumored malcontents. In, is a new coaching staff that will play a more up tempo game and allow the players to forecheck. In, is a new level of depth lacking the last few years.

As much as a quarter of the Flames roster will be turned over from last season, additions of James Neal, Elias Lindholm, Derek Ryan and Austin Czarnik have added the aforementioned depth. The new additions came at the expense of Micheal Ferland, Troy Brouwer, Matt Stajan and Kris Versteeg. Frankly of that quartet, only Ferland was an impact player last season, combined they scored 34 goals. The incoming group of four on the other hand scored 56 goals last year, despite the fact that Czarnik never scored a goal in ten appearances with the Bruins last season.

In addition to the four new skaters signed to one-way contracts, there is still up to three open roster spots available and a plethora of players vying for those jobs. The front-runners for two of those positions are the retuning Curtis Lazar and Garnet Hathaway. Rookies, Spencer Foo, Morgan Klimchuk, Ryan Lomberg and Andrew Mangiapane, all of whom got their first taste of NHL action last season are also in the mix for those spots. Fresh of being acquired in a deal with Montreal, Kerby Rychel is looking to finally establish himself as an bonefide NHLer. Free agent signings, Alan Quine, Buddy Robinson, Yasin Ehliz, Anthony Peluso and Tyler Graovac will do their best to add their names to the conversation. One last name to watch is 2016 second round pick, Dillon Dube who is fresh off a breakout season with the Kelowna Rockets and an impressive appearance as the captain of Team Canada at the World Junior Championships.

The Flames backend will also have a bit of a new look, as Dougie Hamiton, who has been on the top pairing for the past two seasons was sent to Carolina. The result of the move not only brought youngster Noah Hanifin, who is bursting with potential, into the fold, but has led to Mark Giordano and TJ Brodie being reunited. Hanifin, who is just 21 is expected to pair up with veteran defensive specialist, Travis Hamonic. Both Brett Kulak and Michael Stone are set to return to the Flames as well, however they may see rookie Rasmus Andersson force one of them to the role of the seventh defenseman.

Bill Peters, a native of Three Hills, Alberta and former University of Lethbridge Pronghorns bench boss has taken the reigns of the Calgary Flames. Peters, used his exit clause to leave the Carolina Hurricanes after four season, to join the Flames. When you analyze the NHL standings, one could see that Carolina missed the playoffs all four years and posted an unimpressive .498 point percentage. However, during those 4 years, the Hurricanes didn't ice the most competitive of teams as former owner Peter Karmanos pinched pennies.

During his tenure in Carolina, the Canes arguably had the leagues worst goaltending and looking at the save percentages for their goaltenders backs up that up. There seem to be two schools of thought when it comes to Peters, the negative is that he had no one ice success with Carolina, so why would he have any here. To, Peters helped a teams with extremely poor goaltending overachieve by implementing a shot suppression system.

GOALTENDING STATS OF HURRICANES GOALTENDERS DURING PETERS TENURE
NameGPWLOTGAASV%
Cam Ward2079477312.550.907
Eddie Lack54202192.750.901
Scott Darling43132173.180.888
Anton Khudobin3481762.720.900
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In addition to Peters, the Flames added Geoff Ward as an associate coach and brought Ryan Huska up from Stockton to fill an assistant coach role. Ward, has been an NHL assistant for a decade, spending seven years in Boston, where he won a Stanley Cup ring in 2011 and three years with the Devils. Among his duties, Ward will be in charge of the Flames power play, an area where improvement is desperately needed. During his time running the PP for the Devils, they were sixteenth in powerplay percentage. Under Dave Cameron, the Flames were twenty-fifth in two seasons. Huska, while having no NHL experience, has a reputation for cultivating young defensemen, going back to his decade plus as an assistant and head coach in Kelowna. In four years with the Flames minor league system as a head coach, Huska guided the AHL affiliate to the post-season just once, but is credited with helping the development of defensemen Brett Kulak, Rasmus Andersson and Oliver Kylington.

The changes behind the bench for the most part is seen as a positive among the members of the Flames fanbase, as generally the most negative comments will be along the line of "they can't be worse than Gulutzan and Cameron". But some, like myself are excited about the changes behind the bench.​
The Old
Even though a large turnover has occurred, at least three-quarters of last years roster is returning. Among the returning, is Sean Monahan who was sent to some remote lab in the Rockies to have adamantium inserted into his body. Affectionately called 'Mony' by fans and teammates, Monahan underwent three surgeries after being shelfed by the Flames when the season grew out of reach; two for sports hernias and another on his wrist. Recent reports have Monahan at one hundred percent already. New head coach, Bill Peters has stated he will keep the Flames dynamic duo of Gaudreau and Monahan together.

Another pairing that looks like it will be returning to play together, is Matthew Tkachuk and newlywed, Mikael Backlund. With a more offensive option on their right wing, both the Flames and their fanbase are hoping to see more offense from the line known for it's possession metrics.

The third member of the Triple M line, Michael Frolik; is also returning, but early line combinations from Bill Peters have him sliding into the bottom six, however the exact spot is unknown. Also returning are two-thirds of last years third line, Sam Bennett and Mark Jankowski. Due to their ages, both are expected to improve. Bennett, who shot a surprisingly low shooting percentage is a candidate to break out for the Flames. It is uncertain where either Bennett or Jankowski will play in the Flames lineup, or if they will even stay together. Also returning to the team are bottom six forwards, Curtis Lazar and Garnet Hathaway, either of whom could be used on the fourth line or as extra forwards.

As mentioned in the previous section, the move of Dougie Hamilton to Carolina, will result in the Flames reuniting Giordano and Brodie, a pairing that was among the NHL elite when they last played together. Currently still in tact in the Flames bottom pair of Michael Stone and Brett Kulak, however with Stone's ability to play the left side and rookie Rasmus Andersson knocking on the door, the pairing could very easily be split up with one of the two falling to the role of the seventh defenseman.

Between the pipes, the only possible change is Jon Gillies beating out David Rittich for the back-up spot. Mike Smith has the starters role all sewn up.
The Unknown
What is unknown about the Flames heading into camp is plentiful. With all the changes behind the bench and on the ice, the Flames have alot of question marks. Will it take the players a while to adjust to Peters? Does having three former Hurricane players that played under Peters make that adjustment easier? Will the apparent similarities between Gulutzan and Peters systems allow for a quicker transition as well? How will Lindholm and Neal fit with Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk and Backlund?
Who will step up and take the final open roster spots up front? Will the Giordano & Brodie pairing be able to rekindle old chemistry? Will Noah Hanifin grow into the number four role? Will Rasmus Andersson or WHL graduate Juuso Valimaki steal a roster spot from Stone or Kulak? Will Mike Smith's health hold up? Has the experience of starting in the NHL given one or both of Gillies and Rittich something they needed to reach the next level? So many questions, that only time can answer.
Prediction
I am a big fan of all the Flames changes, every single one of them. I suspect the 2018-19 season will go very well for the Flames. I think Peters will implement a similar system, but will focus more on utilizing the speed of our forwards and using a relentless forecheck. I think the new players and Geoff Ward will improve a powerplay that was a putrid 16% last season. Last season the Flames players shot 1.6% lower than their averages over the previous 4 seasons, so I expect some normalization in that regard too.

I predict that the Flames will make the playoffs in the Pacific bracket, finishing second or third in the division. I think the normalization of the teams shooting percentage and the newly added scoring depth, will vault the Flames into the top ten in scoring. I think Mike Smith remains healthy, while playing a lighter workload.

What are your thoughts on the upcoming season?


Great write-up, my biggest concern is the goaltending, if goaltending holds up, we are good. Also Sam Bennett and TJ Brodie need to step up big time.
 

Anglesmith

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Yep. Speaking of time off one thing I noticed in our schedule this year is we have just one long break, rather than two since our ASG weekend and bye week merge together

As for Vegas, I still say the shooting bringing them together and wanted to bring something good for hat city made far more of a difference than being "cast offs"

Maybe, but as crass as it is to say, shootings and similar tragedies seem to happen often to US cities, but the Vegas story remains unique. For example, the Panthers didn't turn into world-beaters in spite of the Parkland shooting. Maybe it's the timing of when the shooting happened, but I feel like the "cast-offs" thing stands out as a unique motivating force for the team. First off they were not protected by their teams, or worse than that they were given away specifically to protect a teammate (like Marchesseault). Then after the public spectacle of being picked or given away in the expansion draft, they were written off and laughed at all summer. If you don't get motivation and focus from that, you aren't a professional athlete.

Of course, a lot of teams that are written off and mocked end up sucking. But what made this different, of course, was that this wasn't a roster that had shown itself to be bad yet, and in addition to that they had a great coach known as a great motivator. It was assumed that the team would be bad simply because of prior history of expansion teams, and because theoretically you're taking a bottom-6 or bottom-3 guy from each team. But by taking guys who were blocked from advancement on their current teams and putting them into greater roles, there should have been reason to suspect that they were going to get more out of their guys than their previous teams did.
 

Lunatik

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Maybe, but as crass as it is to say, shootings and similar tragedies seem to happen often to US cities, but the Vegas story remains unique. For example, the Panthers didn't turn into world-beaters in spite of the Parkland shooting. Maybe it's the timing of when the shooting happened, but I feel like the "cast-offs" thing stands out as a unique motivating force for the team. First off they were not protected by their teams, or worse than that they were given away specifically to protect a teammate (like Marchesseault). Then after the public spectacle of being picked or given away in the expansion draft, they were written off and laughed at all summer. If you don't get motivation and focus from that, you aren't a professional athlete.

Of course, a lot of teams that are written off and mocked end up sucking. But what made this different, of course, was that this wasn't a roster that had shown itself to be bad yet, and in addition to that they had a great coach known as a great motivator. It was assumed that the team would be bad simply because of prior history of expansion teams, and because theoretically you're taking a bottom-6 or bottom-3 guy from each team. But by taking guys who were blocked from advancement on their current teams and putting them into greater roles, there should have been reason to suspect that they were going to get more out of their guys than their previous teams did.
The timing and location of the shooting are important IMO. This is more like 9-11 and the Boston Marathon bombings in the impact they had on people and in bringing their cities together. Also the shooting was just a couple blocks from the arena, shortly after a home game.
 

The Gnome

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I'm with you on Nashville. But Winnipeg and Vegas each have some pretty big questions, especially Vegas. And Winnipeg's track record isn't much better than ours or Vegas', do people really forget that they missed the playoffs the 2 years before this past season and were swept in 4 the year before that? Literally the only thing Winnipeg has done in the last 4 years that we haven't was win their division, otherwise it has been eerily similar to us.

Winnipeg
  • Who replaces Stastny? He was only there a short time but he filled their biggest hole in center depth
  • Is Hellebyuck for real? One good season doesn't make him a perennial Vezina candidate.
  • Are Comrie & Brossoit seriously the backup options?
  • Can Wheeler repeat the career highs he set at age 31?
  • Can they replace their depth losses in Armia, Hendricks and Enstrom?
Vegas
  • Can Stastny and Tatar replace Neal and Perron?
  • Can Karlsson repeat a season that was 34 goals and points better then his career highs?
  • Can Marchessault repeat a season that was 24 points better than his career high?
  • Can Reilly Smith repeat a season that was 9 points better (in 15 fewer games) than his career high?
  • Can Haula repeat a season that was 21 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Colin Miller repeat a season that was 25 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Alex Tuch build on a 37 point rookie season?
  • Can Nate Schmidt repeat a season that was 19 points better than his career high?
  • Can Theodore build on his 29 point first full season?

In case you weren't aware, last year every single player in the Vegas top 10 for scoring is either gone (Neal, Perron), was in their first full season (Tuch, Theodore) or set a career high that was significantly better than their previous. Also if you expand to their top 15 scorers, all but Eakin and Bellemare are apart of those those groups too.

Which is why I said to a lesser extent Vegas. They should regress imo. I was more speaking to the history of success, or recent history. these teams have coaches, players, and a general system in place for success. The character in those locker rooms also has to be quite solid for it to all work. I am a huge believer in our current roster on paper, but I'll really feel confident after a hot start.

So yes, there is question marks for all of these organizations, but NSH and WPG have been in a good place for a while now, giving them a leg up imo. We'll see how this all plays out, I'm excited!
 

Lunatik

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Which is why I said to a lesser extent Vegas. They should regress imo. I was more speaking to the history of success, or recent history. these teams have coaches, players, and a general system in place for success. The character in those locker rooms also has to be quite solid for it to all work. I am a huge believer in our current roster on paper, but I'll really feel confident after a hot start.

So yes, there is question marks for all of these organizations, but NSH and WPG have been in a good place for a while now, giving them a leg up imo. We'll see how this all plays out, I'm excited!
More than anything I'm saying outside of Nashville, I think the West is wide open
 

The Gnome

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More than anything I'm saying outside of Nashville, I think the West is wide open

could be... Teams who have success in recent history don't just fall off a map though because of a handful of personal changes. Winnipeg is still gonna be big, mean, and skilled. Nashville is stable, we know what they'll bring. Vegas I'm less certain of, but I can't see them falling off a cliff either. This could be the year where the flames become the next Nashville and solidify themselves into a WC contender. I just remain cautiously optimistic. A lot has to click with this group for things to translate from paper to tangible results.
 

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I'm with you on Nashville. But Winnipeg and Vegas each have some pretty big questions, especially Vegas. And Winnipeg's track record isn't much better than ours or Vegas', do people really forget that they missed the playoffs the 2 years before this past season and were swept in 4 the year before that? Literally the only thing Winnipeg has done in the last 4 years that we haven't was win their division, otherwise it has been eerily similar to us.

Winnipeg
  • Who replaces Stastny? He was only there a short time but he filled their biggest hole in center depth
  • Is Hellebyuck for real? One good season doesn't make him a perennial Vezina candidate.
  • Are Comrie & Brossoit seriously the backup options?
  • Can Wheeler repeat the career highs he set at age 31?
  • Can they replace their depth losses in Armia, Hendricks and Enstrom?
Vegas
  • Can Stastny and Tatar replace Neal and Perron?
  • Can Karlsson repeat a season that was 34 goals and points better then his career highs?
  • Can Marchessault repeat a season that was 24 points better than his career high?
  • Can Reilly Smith repeat a season that was 9 points better (in 15 fewer games) than his career high?
  • Can Haula repeat a season that was 21 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Colin Miller repeat a season that was 25 points higher than his career high?
  • Can Alex Tuch build on a 37 point rookie season?
  • Can Nate Schmidt repeat a season that was 19 points better than his career high?
  • Can Theodore build on his 29 point first full season?

In case you weren't aware, last year every single player in the Vegas top 10 for scoring is either gone (Neal, Perron), was in their first full season (Tuch, Theodore) or set a career high that was significantly better than their previous. Also if you expand to their top 15 scorers, all but Eakin and Bellemare are apart of those those groups too.

I get you hate advanced stats, but the reality is Winnipeg's underlying numbers says at worst they'll still be a top 3 team in their division.
 

Lunatik

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I get you hate advanced stats, but the reality is Winnipeg's underlying numbers says at worst they'll still be a top 3 team in their division.
My underlying stats say I don't give a f***

And I never once said they will or won't be anything, just said they have so.e big question marks
 

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The Preds just don't impress me that much. I feel like they'll be a good regular season team for years to come but I think that their SCF appearance was an aberration. As long as the current playoff format stays the same, I have a hard time seeing them get past the Jets much like the Blues with the Hawks earlier this decade
 
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Lunatik

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The Preds just don't impress me that much. I feel like they'll be a good regular season for years to come but I think that their SCF appearance was an aberration. As long as the current playoff format stays the same, I have a hard time seeing them get past the Jets much like the Blues with the Hawks earlier this decade
This is my take on the Preds


They're good, but not elite. However their depth makes them as close to a playoff lock as their is in the west
 
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The Gnome

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A lot will depend on the the ramp up rate in terms of team cohesion. We have so many new faces behind the bench and within the roster. As WWE eluded to, Nashville is a solid example of this. Not necessarily elite in terms of talent, but that team is a solidified unit that knows how to battle utilizing their strengths. The sooner we figure out our team identity the sooner we will see results. We, like Nashville, are short on elite talent, but we have (on paper) fantastic depth.
 

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