"Coronavirus is no worse than the flu, bro!"
Dullards.
Which flu pandemic? Which strain?
No. No. You're having this debate. Not me.
It's a question that can be asked, can't it?
When all is said and done, it will end up going right there in the books - worse than some, not as bad as others.
Not really a question that's meant to stir debate.. it's just kind of a rhetorical "meh".
You could literally do the same thing with wars, tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, meteors... volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, and spicy peppers.
Thanks for sharing this data and I hope you continue to bring your perspective.View attachment 351379
I pulled this off a news feed, but I’ve forgotten the original source. Anyway, you can find similar graphs lots of places. I wanted to mention the top right. You can see a spike of new cases nationally, but not deaths. They’ve not risen at all.
- There is an expected lag, but we are far enough into the spike the death lag should be happening this week. The longer this fails to materialize or shows a smaller rise than the cases, the more we should take note that something has changed.
- About half of all US Covid deaths were from nursing homes. In other words, if you could effectively protect that population and nothing else, you’d cut the death toll in half.
- Locally, there are rising hospital Covid cases. But the average age of the patients is in the 50s. In April that number was much higher.
My point is that in my community, the nursing homes are currently Covid free. Maybe there aren’t more deaths from the spike because we are detecting a higher proportion of the milder cases, but more importantly the people who are getting sick now are younger (and have better outcomes).
There is a strange voice of folks posting online who seem angry that there is some good news about the declining fatality rate. Maybe we’ll still see an awful spike in deaths, but it isn’t happening yet. I’m going to choose to be happy and grateful for that and try to understand it.
View attachment 351379
I pulled this off a news feed, but I’ve forgotten the original source. Anyway, you can find similar graphs lots of places. I wanted to mention the top right. You can see a spike of new cases nationally, BUT NOT DEATHS. They’ve not risen at all.
- There is an expected lag, but we are far enough into the spike the death lag should be happening this week. The longer this fails to materialize or shows a smaller rise than the cases, the more we should take note that something has changed.
- About half of all US Covid deaths were from nursing homes. In other words, if you could effectively protect that population and nothing else, you’d cut the death toll in half.
- Locally, there are rising hospital Covid cases. But the average age of the patients is in the 50s. In April that number was much higher.
My point is that in my community, the nursing homes are currently Covid free. Maybe there aren’t more deaths from the spike because we are detecting a higher proportion of the milder cases, but more importantly the people who are getting sick now are younger (and have better outcomes).
There is a strange voice of folks posting online who seem angry that there is some good news about the declining fatality rate. Maybe we’ll still see an awful spike in deaths, but it isn’t happening yet. I’m going to choose to be happy and grateful for that and try to understand it.
What?The whole “ asymptomatic” thing is hogwash.
I’m sorry to tell you that you have pneumonia, but there are no symptoms.
Laughable.
The whole “ asymptomatic” thing is hogwash.
I’m sorry to tell you that you have pneumonia, but there are no symptoms.
Laughable.
Hospital systems are bleeding money. Many of their workers are certainly experiencing the economic realities of this virus. We really need to find ways to get people the health services they need. Not going to the doctor out of fear will create a lot of complications for a whole lot of people. Some of this is tricky based on the layouts of hospitals, but if far from insurmountable. It just takes a little careful planning.You’ll have to show me someone wanting to get tested who is being denied a test before I give any credence to Trump even being able to influence the numbers of tests being done at this point. I didn’t see his comments, but I don’t give them any credence in terms of impacting anything, even if he was serious. It’s not like the labs are going to suddenly not have the test any more, now that it’s there. I think that comment is being blown up as a political flag, nothing that deserves attention.
It’s a fact that most hospitals have lost a lot of money. They’ve had to furlough or lay off workers, including physicians. The suspension of elective surgical procedures has financially crippled hospitals. Similarly most outpatient clinics have seen dramatic decreases in patients. So, yes I think there are probably some pressures to admit patients who might not have been admitted when the beds were filled with sicker older patients. It may be unconscious bias in many cases, but it’s very plausible.
All other things being equal, seeing spiking infection numbers in the young adult population isn’t a cause for panic in and of itself. If we can continue to isolate and protect the elderly and the vulnerable with pre-existing conditions, have a spike and wane could lead to herd immunity on the other side. It’s becoming clear economically that we can’t hide forever. If we are doomed to go through a spike, at least let it be shaped so that the fittest and healthiest among us bear the brunt. I think that’s what we’re seeing.
I strongly reject the notion that you shouldn’t tell people the truth because they may make a bad decision, especially if it’s the government responsible for not telling the truth. I reject any policy based on creating a false perception to shape behavior. Give me the facts, let me decide for myself.
Texas (thankfully) closing bars and requiring restaurants to lower capacity as we struggle to get horses back in the barn. Harris County (Houston) is advising all residents to stay home. As bad as things are here, looks like they are worse in AZ and maybe FL too. I fail to see how having all these sports leagues reopen is a good idea.
The average age of positive cases in Florida has dropped from 65y to 35y. The expected number of deaths from this spike is a tiny fraction of the first time.Florida DGAF. Beaches and restaurants have been open for weeks. Restrictions are decided at the local level, and the few restrictions that have made headlines are only in a few counties at a time. I don't know how this virus hasn't been more widespread in the Sunshine State, unless the exposure rate is truly higher than believed and so many people were asymptomatic.
Florida DGAF. Beaches and restaurants have been open for weeks. Restrictions are decided at the local level, and the few restrictions that have made headlines are only in a few counties at a time. I don't know how this virus hasn't been more widespread in the Sunshine State, unless the exposure rate is truly higher than believed and so many people were asymptomatic.
They actually just enacted a statewide order last week closing all bars in the entire state and reducing restaurant capacities back to the levels of their previous phase. I was there three weeks ago and the observance of the required social distancing was pretty high. There were only two places that I went where I felt things weren't what they should have been and I just went somewhere else. A few people (residents and tourists) and a few businesses are ruining the return to normal for everyone else because they can't be bothered to follow a few simple rules.Florida DGAF. Beaches and restaurants have been open for weeks. Restrictions are decided at the local level, and the few restrictions that have made headlines are only in a few counties at a time. I don't know how this virus hasn't been more widespread in the Sunshine State, unless the exposure rate is truly higher than believed and so many people were asymptomatic.
...and the problem is?
The above sounds like it is a good thing, not a bad thing.
The only way I could see that as a bad thing would be if Florida was currently experiencing widespread death and destruction across the board, to the point where local restrictions could be regarded as a sieve.
I would like to believe that it would be fairly straightforward to document such pandemonium, if that were in-fact the reality.