There is a tangible result - a playoff berth in 2018, well before anyone would've expected in 2015 after Shero got here. This team needed a ton of work and still does.
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There is a tangible result - a playoff berth in 2018, well before anyone would've expected in 2015 after Shero got here. This team needed a ton of work and still does.
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Couldn’t care less about the winning percentages without context. They literally made the playoff last season. Those were old trash teams with essentially zero core players that mattered. Taylor Hall alone is worth more than those whole rosters. We also now have another franchise player in Nico. It sucks to suck, but there’s at least some light at the end of the tunnel. Another top pick will really help too. Those late Lou teams were the actual low point of the franchise in recent times. They had zero young talent and zero hope of becoming watchable any time soon.
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It’s not rhetoric, it’s reality. It takes time to build up a team from essentially nothing. We haven’t had the MVP for much of the season, we’ve gotten the worst goaltending in the league, and we’re also without one of our only competent dmen. It was a shame Shero wasn’t able to do anything this offseason, but there’s obviously a plan. One bad year doesn’t erase the progress he’s made.
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It's been this way for a while now.Maybe it's time to actually spend some money.
Second-lowest spend in the entire NHL.
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The results aren’t there but everyone raves about the team culture. I think we have quite a few players that are a couple years away from playing their best hockey. If we have a legit starter in Blackwood. Hire at least one prized free agent. Get a great draft pick. Extend hall. Then I think next year is likely hynes last regardless of extension.
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One bad year? We picked 1st overall in 2017? What progress?
He's been here for 4 years this season is currently the 8th worse in our history, 2017 was the 7th worse in our history.
We have a .493 winning percentage since Shero been here over 4 seasons
Lou"s last 3 years we were .504
So what has he built? What's the progess. That looks backward to me.
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I understand the process but at some point you need to expedite things when possible. This offseason with the list of pending UFAs is a perfect example of that opportunity rising. Regardless the "progress" is arguable at best. Sure we have better prospects, probably, but until all is said and done you don't know for sure.
Context is hurting your argument. If you think we were better off in 2014-2015 with that roster and that prospect pool than what we have now then I have a bridge to sell you.
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The thing to understand is as bad as that team in 2014-15 was, it was just going to get worse.
All the production (If you can call it that) was coming from old players like Cammalleri and Jagr.
First we had to replace that, just replace it, with young talent. Nevermind adding to it.
The difference now is our best players are young, and we can add to them going forward in a sustainable way.
All the production (If you can call it that) was coming from old players like Cammalleri and Jagr.
First we had to replace that, just replace it, with young talent. Nevermind adding to it.
The difference now is our best players are young, and we can add to them going forward in a sustainable way.
We were much worse in 2014-2015, but of course Cory Madoff decided we shouldn't have a shot at McDavid/Eichel and stole a good 10-15 extra points for us that year.
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Those players Cammalleri, Jagr, Ryder were emergency replacements. For Parise and Kovalchuk.
Will anything be any different if Hall decides he might want to play in Canada?
No prospect pool is replacing Hall...and Shit, imagine replacing Parise, Kovalchuk, Elias and Brodeur in a 3 year span....a prospect pool ain't doing it, no way, no how.
The Devils were on a downward trajectory from 2005 on. They had some really good teams in the late 00s decade, but I don't think anyone rational is thinking the Devils really got robbed of a Stanley Cup in any of those years. Losing Parise and Kovalchuk only accelerated the necessary process of rebuilding this organization that had been drafting near the bottom and trading draft picks away for the previous decade. You can't win in this league without HOF talent and the last HOF talent drafted by the Devils was in 2003 with Parise. That changed in 2017 with Hischier. Obviously Hall is also an HOF level talent but you can't make a team merely out of swindling other GMs.
The Devils can absorb the loss of Hall for the simple reason that they didn't trade a whole lot to get him. If they deal Hall, they will probably come out even on that trade, plus they will have had Hall for 3 seasons and got a playoff berth out of the whole thing. It'd suck - I certainly don't want Shero to trade him - but the franchise would survive and would still be on an upswing.
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HOF, indeed.
Parise is a good player but come on with the HOF talk.
Parise is a great player, and he should make the HOF if he has a decent end to his career. He's likely going to end his career with 400+ goals with most of his career played in the Dead Puck Era II. There are way worse 500+ goal scorers in the HOF right now. At any rate, if he misses, it's likely because he missed a year of his prime to injury - he was a top player for the Devils, including an MVP-level season in 2008-09.
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