Prospect Info: Samuel Girard

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  1. GeauxPreds1

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    I been reading alot about this kid because i would of liked to put him a trade for duchene but the more i read about him and watch highlights on him. He has a legit shot to make this team as soon as next year if he develops in Milwaukee. He seems to fit lavys system too. So i dont know if i want to get rid of him now lol. My question is fabbro that much better than girard?
     
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    They just different styles. Their skill sets are like comparing Ellis and Ekholm. I will say that Fabbro's maturity is exceptional for his age. That maturity can lead to an earlier callup. I don't think Girard is near the maturity of Fabbro
     
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    I don't think he's eligible for Milwaukee this season, one more year in the Q.
     
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    Girard was the last one sent down last season wasn't he? I mean of the junior players.
     
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    He tracked down Dr. Richard Kimble, so he definitely has some skills.
     
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    iirc yes I believe he was.


    looks like QMJHL pre-season has started already. Girard with 1+1 today.
     
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    Does he come up during training camp or is he down for good this year
     
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    So whats the deal gonna be with him??? Im assuming he is still up with the team cause I havent seen any news of him being returned yet but also see he isnt playing at all due to all the dmen Preds have.... Absolutely love this player and know he can make an impact this season but obviously wont get into many games if players are healthy and all that

    I would assume a decision will come sorta soon just cause playing no games isnt really the best development path... Cant wait to see what happens!!... He will terrorize junior if he gets returned though and wont be pushed too hard
     
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    He should be playing now. He's our 4th best defenseman currently.
     
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    If he could go somewhere besides juniors that would be ideal, because I don't think he has much left to learn in that league. Unfortunately it's not an option, and I'd rather see him struggle here and learn on the fly. It's not like he's taking ice time from anyone good.
     
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    Side bar: What is the logic behind: A) NHL or B) Juniors. Why can't he go to Milwaukee? I understand that is just how it is but now I'm trying to understand the logic behind the system.
     
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    https://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/2012/8/1/3213217/bruins-nhl-chl-ahl-agreement-CBA-talks-2012

    There is an agreement in place between the NHL and the CHL (Canadian Hockey League, the overarching organization beneath which stand the OHL, the WHL, and the QMJHL) which exists primarily to protect the CHL. The rule is as follows:

    Players drafted and playing for CHL teams are ineligible to play in the professional minor leagues (AHL, ECHL) until they are 20 years old (by December 31st of that year) or have completed four years in major juniors. A perfect example of this is Jared Knight, this year. Knight won't turn 20 until January 16, 2012. He's already completed two years in juniors, playing his third in London this season. If things continue along their course, and Knight does not make the NHL Bruins for the 2011-2012 season, he'll have to play that year in London as well, and will be eligible for AHL play in 2012-2013. Barring CHL involvement, players have to be 18 by September 15 to be eligible for the AHL at all.
     
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    Outdated agreement that really doesn't seem legal...
     
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    It's as legal as the NFL requiring 3 years removed from high school before being eligible to be drafted.
     
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    And one and done for the NBA, etc...
     
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    Not the same. NFL rule is for everyone, not just people drafted from college football.
     
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    I didn't say it was the same. It's a mutual agreement among leagues. There is nothing illegal about it. I don't like it but I understand why the CHL wanted it (protects their league).
     
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    It wasn't collectively bargained was it? Seems a lot like collusion.
     
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    Not sure if it's collectively bargained or not.
     
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    At this point I would much rather play him and Carrier than a combination of Weber/Irwin/Emelin/Bitetto, even if it means burning a year of Girard's ELC. Somehow all four of them have managed to disappoint this season.

    As far as lines go, I'd go

    Josi-Ekholm
    Girard-Subban
    Emelin-Carrier
    Weber/Bitetto/Irwin

    and when Ellis is healthy go to

    Josi-Ellis
    Girard-Subban
    Ekholm-Carrier
    Emelin/Weber/Irwin/Bitetto
     
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    That's what a typical 3rd pairing guy does. That's why they are 3rd pairing and not top 4.
     
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    I don't know why more people don't understand this. Many Preds fans seem to judge our bottom 2 D the same way they judge our top 4. Last year, people went on and on over how awful our 3rd pair was in the playoffs, yet dang if we didn't come within two games of winning the freaking Cup. (and probably would have won it without offensive injuries).

    As you say above, if they played that much better consistently then they wouldn't be 3rd pair to start with, and therefore would not be here in the first place. Almost every team in the league is in the same boat as we are- with borderline, questionable talent on the 3rd pair. That is never going to change.
     
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    Look at everyone else’s 3rd pair and then look at ours. It’s not as bad as we make it out to be.
     
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    But we have a better option that's sitting in the press box. And we're without one of our top 4 until the new year.
     

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