Player Discussion Sam Reinhart: Part III

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Icicle

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I know you were joking, but over the past two seasons, 67% of Reinhart's assists were primary assists. Jack was at 58%, for a comparison.
That statistic can easily be used against the player as much as for them. It's not saying much.
 

OkimLom

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I juat hope we actually have a non-fanboy GM that see things as they are. I already kniw the fanboy opionions around here that portrey Sam as something way better than he actually is. Hes fine to stay and be a semi-decent winger and PP specialist but such a player shouldnt be earning more than 5 mil 3 years into his NHL career.

Translation: I just hope we have a GM that thinks like me, that see things in a general sense. I don't really see what makes Reinhart productive, or why others like him. It's okay for him to stay in our top 6 and play similar minutes that Eichel plays, but I really don't know how much a player like that makes, so I'll say a number that I believe a 3rd liner makes. We don't need to pay the guy that was 3rd in scoring since he started playing full time.

35% of his production was on the PP FYI.


68% of his assists are primary assists...But yes a PP specialist and does nothing else.
 
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Icicle

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How would you use that statistic against him?
He's bad at digging out pucks that leads to anything other than 1-timers. Or otherwise put: If the play isn't going through him it doesn't succeed.

How can 2/3 of a player's assists being primary assists be used against a player?

That's like saying that having a high percentage of EV goals can be used against a player.
Like it's frequently said a high percentage of PP goals for a player..
 

Aladyyn

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He's bad at digging out pucks that leads to anything other than 1-timers. Or otherwise put: If the play isn't going through him it doesn't succeed.
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1point21Gigawatts

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That's very concerning. He was just in town Saturday.
eh, i don't know why it should be concerning. he is a young guy with free time. he is going to go do things in that free time. I wouldn't read into it.

edit - and just saw the harrington tweet. not great and definitely a concern. this is reinhart's camp playing hardball.
 

OkimLom

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He's bad at digging out pucks that leads to anything other than 1-timers. Or otherwise put: If the play isn't going through him it doesn't succeed.

You're serious with this? If you're of the mindset that the only way a primary assist happens only before a one-timer, then you might need to watch more hockey. There was a large discussion years/seasons back about the misuse of Reinhart as a winger to retrieve pucks. Byslma got a lot of criticism for his player usage and this is one of them. Reinhart has always been a guy to read off a play, and pounce on a loose puck and make a play. He's not a guy that his role should be trying to dig pucks out.

I read this: "If the play isn't going through him it doesn't succeed." as he's pretty darn important for the play on the ice. Seems the offense does go through him.

But that seems like something positive. If you're trying to prove another point you'll need to go more into detail about it.
 

pigpen65

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Really wish they could have just moved ROR to wing and traded Reinhart for a legit 2nd / 3rd line center.
 

SnuggaRUDE

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The issue has to be fundamental. One side wants a bridge the other wants a longer term. If I'm Reinhart's agent i'm negotiating based around a 6 year ask. That's the worst possible option for Buffalo.
 

Dreakon13

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Dang. It's a shame that it's gotten to this point with Sam's contract. Hopefully he doesn't end up missing too much of camp (or worse).

Really interested to see what the deal ends up being.
 

Aladyyn

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The issue has to be fundamental. One side wants a bridge the other wants a longer term. If I'm Reinhart's agent i'm negotiating based around a 6 year ask. That's the worst possible option for Buffalo.
No, that's a really good option for Buffalo.
 
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