Player Discussion Sam Reinhart: Part III

[Jame]

I really don't think they do other than looking at a players trajectory and if that's the case.

So your explanation for Arvidsson’s contract is that 60 point 23 yr olds are only worth 4.25?

@sabrebuild explained it pretty succinctly.

Reinhart in 3 years hasnt really elevated his game a whole much offensively. It's almost like he came into the NHL already playing at his peak.

I couldn’t disagree more.

How much do past seasons really matter?

1 year of production vs 2-3 years of production matters a lot. Arvidsson’s contract vs proves that.

How many times has a player gone into a contract year and broke out and everyone on the board says man hes gonna get paid, even if he's been non existent up until that point and then they get paid.

Don’t confuse UFA and RFA

Reinharts trajectory hasnt really moved the needle to think he can be anything more 50-55 point player. I personally hope he can be a 65-70 point player but thats because I always hope for the best from our players and its probably not very likely he is that calibre of a player.

Other than the 40 most recent consecutive games that he played at a 70+ Point pace

 

[MayDayMayDay]

Apples and oranges I know because they're different positions, but what about giving him the same deal as Risto?

 

[sabrebuild]

Apples and oranges I know because they're different positions, but what about giving him the same deal as Risto?

Done.

 

[Reddawg]

Apples and oranges I know because they're different positions, but what about giving him the same deal as Risto?

I imagine that's pretty close to the identical deal Sam will ultimately get.

 

[DJN21]

Apples and oranges I know because they're different positions, but what about giving him the same deal as Risto?

Done

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

6 x 5.4? Sign me up. I can live with that. Buys out 2 UFA years. He's worth about 4.25-4.7 right now on a bridge so 6 x 5.4 is very fair. And Reinhart should realize he has put up good not great seasons so far so he should accept a fair good deal. The days of every high draft pick RFA automatically getting an 8 year deal should be done. I want to see something eye popping for me to give out another 8 year deal after giving Eichel one and Dahlin will get one in 3 years, Mitts in 2.

 

[ZZamboni]

Watch the tolerance ...

Approve / Disapprove

What if Sam gets ...

6 x 5.2

6 x 5.5

6 x 5.8

6 x 6.0

6 x 6.25

8 x 6.0

8 x 6.5

 

[Club]

6 x 5.5

 

[Jim Bob]

Watch the tolerance ...

Approve / Disapprove

What if Sam gets ...

6 x 5.2

6 x 5.5

6 x 5.8

6 x 6.0

6 x 6.25

8 x 6.0

8 x 6.5

I won't be mad with any of those combos.

But, if it does get to $6M+ per, I would hope/expect it to be 8 years and not 6.

 

[Jame]

The days of every high draft pick RFA automatically getting an 8 year deal should be done.

A day that never existed

 

[tsujimoto74]

Watch the tolerance ...

Approve / Disapprove

What if Sam gets ...

6 x 5.2

6 x 5.5

6 x 5.8

6 x 6.0

6 x 6.25

8 x 6.0

8 x 6.5

For $6M+, I'd hope we can get an extra UFA year or 2.

 

[1972]

Watch the tolerance ...

Approve / Disapprove

What if Sam gets ...

6 x 5.2

6 x 5.5

6 x 5.8

6 x 6.0

6 x 6.25

8 x 6.0

8 x 6.5

I am find with all except the bolded. If we're going $6 per then it's 8 years.

 

[ZZamboni]

I am find with all except the bolded. If we're going $6 per then it's 8 years.

Curious ... And why does 300K more per year from 5.5 to 5.8 make that a deal breaker for you?

 

[1972]

Curious ... And why does 300K more per year from 5.5 to 5.8 make that a deal breaker for you?

Because you have to draw a line in the sand at some point? I’m not the one managing the cap or paying the players, so at the end of the day I don’t really care all that much. 5.8 x 6 years just doesn’t sound great to me.

 

[1972]

Split the difference between Larkin and Dvorak. 5.2x6.

 

[enthusiast]

5.34 * 7

 

[yahhockey]

At some point will they give up and sign a one year contract hoping for the six to eight year extension next season? It would be interesting to know if they are slowly meeting in the middle or if one side dug in their heels and won't go much higher/lower. There are many variables with RFA vs UFA years when deciding on a long term contract for a player exiting their ELC. The lack of offer sheets hampers the RFA from declaring what his true value may be since there is only one team offering a contract. Sometimes the threat of arbitration encourages a team to up their offer however this isn't applicable for Sam since he declined to go that route.

 

[sufferer]

Proof that Sam did a thing albeit 2 months ago:

 

[Montag DP]

Proof that Sam did a thing albeit 2 months ago:

Does Sam have a huge head, or does that other guy just have a tiny one?

 

[Fearnot]

Does Sam have a huge head, or does that other guy just have a tiny one?

It's above average but he's next to a manlet so it contrasts even further.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Proof that Sam did a thing albeit 2 months ago:

So we can add enforcer to his resume. Just cost another $1 million. What is Botterill waiting for?

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Prediction? The deal is announced before the end of the weekend.

 

[haseoke39]

Prediction? The deal is announced before the end of the weekend.

The deal is announced after the weekend.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

The deal is announced after the weekend.

I honestly half expect it to be before 3pm today for some reason.

 

[ZZamboni]

2-5 days before training camp starts