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So assuming I am correct: anything between 2 and 6 years is f***ing terrible, 1-2 years is bad. Gotta go at least 6 years, hopefully Botterill doesn't f*** it up. The O'Reilly trade gives Reinhart less leverage so we'll see how it works out.Reinhart has 4 RFA years left, correct?
i'm confused at how the ror trade gives sam less leverage in negotiations, if anything i'd say it gives him more.So assuming I am correct: anything between 2 and 6 years is ****ing terrible, 1-2 years is bad. Gotta go at least 6 years, hopefully Botterill doesn't **** it up. The O'Reilly trade gives Reinhart less leverage so we'll see how it works out.
We're not exactly trying to make a push next year so the threat of sitting out some games loses a lot of meaning.i'm confused at how the ror trade gives sam less leverage in negotiations, if anything i'd say it gives him more.
could you explain please?
If Botterill is the cap wizard he's supposed to be, no bridge deal is happening.Giving Sam a 1 year prove it deal is a very okay route to go. I think it's obvious that he's more than the 20 goal, 40-50 point winger that he's shown so far (which is still a very good player), and I think he still legitimately has 1/2C potential.
Yea locking up Sam to a 6 - 7 year x $5-6mil is probably the best long term option, but there is always the slight risk that he doesn't end up as a consistent 6 million dollar player. I can see Botteril wanting to make sure he knows what he's paying for. And if he proves that he's worth an extra $1-2 million in aav, I would gladly pay Sam that.
And if he plays on Jack's wing and puts up 30 goals and 60-70 points, or if he plays 2C and puts up 25 goals and 50 points...I don't see why it would cost much more than Schiefele's deal anyways.
Can we wait until the contract is signed before we start making up excuses for Botterill?Let's not forget that this is a negotiation, and not the GM simply deciding the term and dollar amount.
Imagine opting into having to sign Reinhart, Dahlin, and Mittelstadt in one off-season.Vogl commented on a Reinhart contract in his chat today. He doesn't see more than 2-3 years.
I think we would all prefer to lock up Reinhart long-term at a lowish dollar amount, but no one knows if Sam and his agent would be on board with that. Let's not preemptively bash Botterill for an agreement between two sides that hasn't even happened yet.Can we wait until the contract is signed before we start making up excuses for Botterill?
Depends on the cap hit, but IMO anything under $7 million cap hit is a good deal for the Sabres with little risk. I wanted 6x6 last offseason, and I still do. I'll be honest early last year I was happy we didn't do it, but I think Reinhart proved even in a bad year he can put up 20+ goals.Aladyyn on Eichel: Big long-term deals that haven't already been earned by on-ice production are a huge mistake!
Aladynn on Reinhart: So assuming I am correct: anything between 2 and 6 years is ****ing terrible, 1-2 years is bad. Gotta go at least 6 years, hopefully Botterill doesn't **** it up.
Mittelstadt burned a year. He's RFA in two years.Imagine opting into having to sign Reinhart, Dahlin, and Mittelstadt in one off-season.
I'd also like 6x6.Depends on the cap hit, but IMO anything under $7 million cap hit is a good deal for the Sabres with little risk. I wanted 6x6 last offseason, and I still do. I'll be honest early last year I was happy we didn't do it, but I think Reinhart proved even in a bad year he can put up 20+ goals.
Look at that cap wizardry by Botterill!Mittelstadt burned a year. He's RFA in two years.
Good point, I missed that.Mittelstadt burned a year. He's RFA in two years.
Then just give him more money. It'll still be cheaper when it matters.I think we would all prefer to lock up Reinhart long-term at a lowish dollar amount, but no one knows if Sam and his agent would be on board with that. Let's not preemptively bash Botterill for an agreement between two sides that hasn't even happened yet.
Then the risk increases and the value decreases. If you weren't okay with giving Jack a big contract that wasn't already earned with on-ice production, the only reason you'd be okay with it for Sam is bias.Then just give him more money. It'll still be cheaper when it matters.
Reinhart's not getting anywhere close to 10M even if he signs for 8 years though.Then the risk increases and the value decreases. If you weren't okay with giving Jack a big contract that wasn't already earned with on-ice production, the only reason you'd be okay with it for Sam is bias.