Sam Girard

[Makar to MacK]

The point I was trying to make was that I do not see any room for Timmins next year, unless he dominates in the AHL which I very much doubt. After years of misery the Avs are finally icing teams with a strong defense and it is going to be hard for rookie D to make the big club.

Thanks God for that. Avs D is average to above average. Thank the hockey gods!!

 

[Pokecheque]

It is nice to finally see an Avs blueline that does not have any obvious placeholders.

 

[Makar to MacK]

It is nice to finally see an Avs blueline that does not have any obvious placeholders.

Agreed. it feels weird talking about the Avs D and not talking about how horrible they are lol. They are legit right now and only going to get better with SammyG, Timmons, and Makar. #GoAvsGo

 

[Foppa Frossa]

If Timmins plays a solid season in Loveland I think Nemeth will be gone. Barbs will continue to be the 7th dman. Makar may play a full season in Loveland next season. We're in a position where there's no need to rush these guys.

 

[Piestany88]

If Timmins plays a solid season in Loveland I think Nemeth will be gone. Barbs will continue to be the 7th dman. Makar may play a full season in Loveland next season. We're in a position where there's no need to rush these guys.

This is Makar's prep season for the NHL , he won't need Loveland

 

[Steerpike]

The point I was trying to make was that I do not see any room for Timmins next year, unless he dominates in the AHL which I very much doubt. After years of misery the Avs are finally icing teams with a strong defense and it is going to be hard for rookie D to make the big club.

It's rare for defensemen to have everything figured out at a young age. Girard is special, not the model for all future D-man development. Leaving Timmins in the AHL until his play forces the Avs to make room is the safer course.

(Now that I reread what you wrote I'm pretty sure we agree)

Same goes for Makar and the expectation that he won't need AHL time.

 

[Makar to MacK]

Just my humble opinion but I think it's a little early to say Sam "has it all figured out". Dont get me wrong, I love Sammy and I think he will be really good but it's only been 4 games. From the small sample size this season he looks amazing but let's give him at least a month before we nominate him for the HoF. Just saying

 

[AvsFan29]

I think teams are starting to catch on to him---which is fine. Buffalo and Columbus seemed to immediately rush at him as soon as he had the puck, and he still made fantastic plays. They did force a few give aways though.

Also I'd like to say that his passing is top 3 on the team. He doesn't telegraph his passes at all. They are lightning fast and very accurate. I would not be surprised to see him break 40 points this year. Maybe even 50.

 

[Avsavsavsavsavs]

I think teams are starting to catch on to him---which is fine. Buffalo and Columbus seemed to immediately rush at him as soon as he had the puck, and he still made fantastic plays. They did force a few give aways though.

Also I'd like to say that his passing is top 3 on the team. He doesn't telegraph his passes at all. They are lightning fast and very accurate. I would not be surprised to see him break 40 points this year. Maybe even 50.

If he could fix that muffin of a shot kid would easily be a 50-60 point D man.

 

[Piestany88]

It's rare for defensemen to have everything figured out at a young age. Girard is special, not the model for all future D-man development. Leaving Timmins in the AHL until his play forces the Avs to make room is the safer course.

(Now that I reread what you wrote I'm pretty sure we agree)

Same goes for Makar and the expectation that he won't need AHL time.

Nah , not saying he will have it all figured out but if he signed he'd be here now . Going back to school is his prep for the NHL and he'll possibly sign at the end of the college season

 

[AvsFan29]

If he could fix that muffin of a shot kid would easily be a 50-60 point D man.

Yah, if the goalie can see his shot, it's getting stopped every time lol it's weak. I think he's looking for redirects, and always looking for the pass. He might just not be a shooting option from the point. I could see him trying to get down low and get a shot off though. He has the hands for it.

 

[AvsMakar08]

Yah, if the goalie can see his shot, it's getting stopped every time lol it's weak. I think he's looking for redirects, and always looking for the pass. He might just not be a shooting option from the point. I could see him trying to get down low and get a shot off though. He has the hands for it.

Jost is our 2nd best hands on this team and can shoot the puck too.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I think teams are starting to catch on to him---which is fine. Buffalo and Columbus seemed to immediately rush at him as soon as he had the puck, and he still made fantastic plays. They did force a few give aways though.

Also I'd like to say that his passing is top 3 on the team. He doesn't telegraph his passes at all. They are lightning fast and very accurate. I would not be surprised to see him break 40 points this year. Maybe even 50.

I think he is undisputed best passer on the team

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Jost is our 2nd best hands on this team and can shoot the puck too.

Jost isn't even in the Top 5 on this team.

Mackinnon, Girard, Rantanen, Barrie, Kerfoot. They've all shown significantly more with the puck on the stick then what Jost has to this point.

 

[AvsFan29]

Jost is our 2nd best hands on this team and can shoot the puck too.

Jost is having a rough start. He definitely has the skill. He isn't second best in any category. Actually he is the second best player named Tyson.

 

[klozge]

Jost is having a rough start. He definitely has the skill. He isn't second best in any category. Actually he is the second best player named Tyson.

He may be when it comes to puck battles.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I have found 20 year old Tyson Jost to be a very smart, complete, two-way player so far to start the season.

Looks stronger, a bit quicker, and his reading of the game is just so good. Rarely out of position, high level of pursuit and coverage ability, very complete.

The offense will come, I have no concerns about that. I’m super encouraged by a young player showing such two-way skill at a center position, that’s very promising.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I dont see it with Jost.


Really haven't been impressed with him much at all this year. Outside of his board play which has been good, I haven't really liked his game anywhere else.


His biggest thing to me is his skating. It's still noticeably slow and unless he can get that going I dont think he'll be good enough offensively to be a Top 6 Center.

 

[AvsFan29]

I have found 20 year old Tyson Jost to be a very smart, complete, two-way player so far to start the season.

Looks stronger, a bit quicker, and his reading of the game is just so good. Rarely out of position, high level of pursuit and coverage ability, very complete.

The offense will come, I have no concerns about that. I’m super encouraged by a young player showing such two-way skill at a center position, that’s very promising.

He's been ok. He's solid on the boards, and is a smart player, but he hasn't been a threat offensively, which is exactly what Colorado needs.

 

[klozge]

He's been ok. He's solid on the boards, and is a smart player, but he hasn't been a threat offensively, which is exactly what Colorado needs.

I agree although I'm quite high on Jost, especially this season. He plays too much of a support role for Kerfoot and Wilson right now. This he does well but it slowly becomes time for him to be the main scorer on his line.

 

[Ivan13]

If Jost becomes a 50 point #2 center who is great defensively I'd love that pick.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I agree although I'm quite high on Jost, especially this season. He plays too much of a support role for Kerfoot and Wilson right now. This he does well but it slowly becomes time for him to be the main scorer on his line.

I guess I don’t see that as much of a problem. What you define as support, I define as a catalyst.

Their line has 5 goals through the first 4 games. Jost is doing what he needs for the line to succeed.

Kerfoot is never going to be the guy helping out defensively. He’s floating outside the blue line most of the time, as evidenced by Barrie’s breakaway pass to him last game. He has 5 points through the first 4 games, having a great offensive start and benefiting from TJ’s work on the other side of the ice.

Wilson is being relied upon to score goals in a secondary role this year. He has 3 already, again being freed up to move closer to the net because of the work Jost is doing along the boards. We notice Wilson around the crease a lot more, in the past he’s been needed in corners, doing board work, and digging pucks. Jost is doing that on both sides of the ice.

Again, I’m seeing a 20 year old delivering very good two-way hockey at *center* and allowing his line to deliver, which is what they have been doing. The points will come, it’s only logical if he keeps doing so many things right.

 

[Avsboy]

Jost reminds me a bit of Svatos

 

[Pokecheque]

Yeah, Girard's game is not flawless, of course it isn't, and it probably never will be. He'll never be the "safest" player on the team. There will be occasional giveaways and defensive-zone turnovers. But I am still astounded that they are indeed targeting him and there hasn't been a noticeable drop in his ability to make plays.

He's still got a ways to go before IMO he's at his peak. Dude's only 20, right? And he's already this good.

I was listening to Boomer Gordon on NHL Radio while he was doing his fantasy hockey segment and he was flabbergasted that no one really wanted him on their team, there was just zero demand, so he promptly snatched him right up. I imagine that won't be the case soon.

 

[Foppberg]

Yeah, Girard's game is not flawless, of course it isn't, and it probably never will be. He'll never be the "safest" player on the team. There will be occasional giveaways and defensive-zone turnovers. But I am still astounded that they are indeed targeting him and there hasn't been a noticeable drop in his ability to make plays.

He's still got a ways to go before IMO he's at his peak. Dude's only 20, right? And he's already this good.

I was listening to Boomer Gordon on NHL Radio while he was doing his fantasy hockey segment and he was flabbergasted that no one really wanted him on their team, there was just zero demand, so he promptly snatched him right up. I imagine that won't be the case soon.

Probably because he doesn't shoot, block, or hit a lot. Those things add in in pools. And he isn't a point machine, so.