Sam Girard vs. Cale Makar

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Which do you take?

  1. Cale Makar

    84.2%
  2. Samuel Girard

    15.8%
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  1. MC2D

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    At this point in time.

    Girard has the higher floor...

    But Makar has the higher ceiling...

    I have a weakness for dynamic Dmen like Makar, DeAngelo, Karlsson, Dahlin, etc. So I choose Makar.
     
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    FWIW the most impressive part of Girard's game is his defense; kid's basically a left-shooting Spurgeon at 20.
     
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    Gimme that Cale
     
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    I'm going with potential here picking Makar
     
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    Makar has a much higher potential for elite offense.
     
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    Girard's been good so far this year but I'd still go with Makar here.
     
  7. Jarey Curry

    Jarey Curry Avalanche of Makar

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    That question will be answered only by time, we will see how it goes but im one of those that believe Makar could become the best player from his draft. Think about it
     
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    I've gotten to see a few more of Makar's games at UMass recently and I don't think he should be seen as a low-floor kind of guy like he was when he was drafted. His skating is perfection - acceleration, lateral, top speed, you name it - and that allows him to cover for his own mistakes most of the time. He's got a high floor, a second pair NHLer at the lowest.

    Upside is more about production and it's much harder to project offensive production at the next level, or to even make projections for what a 20 year old NHLer will do at 25. He's got a heavier wrister than Girard but I don't feel as confident in making predictions about their scoring upside.

    In some ways they're similar players. Both guys are relatively short, they're smart, and they're as slippery as any D you'll ever see.
     
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    Avs better hope it's Makar and that's not a knock on SG. He's just not the franchise or even top true pairing D they need.
     
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    Girard is a top pairing quality defenseman already so he definitely has the higher floor. I take Makar’s ceiling though.
     
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    Jarey Curry Avalanche of Makar

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    The likes of Girard and Makar also need that opportunity to rise to the next level. Right now that opportunity is on the first pp, and Barries the king
     
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    what is it that people see in makar to give him a higher offensive cieling?
     
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    His shot
     
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    And his explosiveness. His more aggressive attacking mindset is also probably part of it, but mostly it’s his shot & explosiveness.
     
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    Yup. But it was easier to type what I typed lol
     
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    Anyone still taking Girard here? I don't see it.
     
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    Indeed as good as Girard has been so far this season this is easily Makar for me. Glad that we have both of them. :D
     
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    Yikes, I had voted Girard
     
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    Girard has a 40 point ceiling and Makar has a 70 point ceiling. Still like Girard a lot. He's, while undersized, a very impressive two way defender with fantastic agility on his skates.
     
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    How good is Makar defensively?
     
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    He's fairly good. He's sturdy and smart. He's like all new NHL defenders not used to a NHL forecheck, so he gets sometimes overwhelmed by the pressure. He'll figure it out eventually.
     
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    Girard is a magician (bad start this year, though) but Makar is... I don't know what he is yet. Just so very, very good both offensively and defensively. If he keeps it up, of course.
     
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    Currently or how good does it project to be in his prime? ATM he's still figuring things out & can be flustered by heavy forechecks...and like all rookies has had both ups & downs this season...but his two-way potential is a big part of his appeal as well; thus why so many of us have been comparing him to Keith rather than Karlsson, ever since that first prospect camp he participated in as an Av.
     
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    He's what MacK would've become if Nate had grown up playing on the blueline. I've said it before, but Cale has the talent to become our best player.
     
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