Is Gagner playing center or wing for the knights this season?
I for those who haven't seen Gagner's goal on Friday night, here is the link. It made the highlight reels on all the major Canadian sports networks. An end to end beauty.
If the link doesn't take you right there, click on the Sudbury/London 3-2 game. The goal is 40 secs in and they show a full clip of it again 1:00 in.
http://www.rogerstelevision.com/option.asp?lid=37&g=8316&c=255
The USHL isn't as good, but its more low scoring, thats why Gagner's stats as a 16y/o in the USHL were soo impressive.The USHL is not and will never be on a par with Major Junior or NCAA, since they are often only used as a stepping-stone for the NCAA. The CHL and NCAA are pretty much on a par, but the USHL is a step down. Would Sam Gagner be playing in the USHL as a 19-year-old? Not a chance. He would have moved on to Wisconsin. That's the difference.
I realize you said "IMO" but I think you better be getting a new opinion. There is a reason the American players come up to play in the CHL. I wonder what the reason might be.....hmmmm..?
The USHL is not and will never be on a par with Major Junior or NCAA, since they are often only used as a stepping-stone for the NCAA. The CHL and NCAA are pretty much on a par, but the USHL is a step down. Would Sam Gagner be playing in the USHL as a 19-year-old? Not a chance. He would have moved on to Wisconsin. That's the difference.
ncaa is better then the ohl imo. the players are older and bigger. do you really think skille would have had 1 point pr 2 games in the O. it's just to look at the stats. do you think schremp would have gotten 100 points in 40 ncaa games and radulov 100 pints?? i dont!!
Anybody play defense in the O?
link doesn't work..
i'd love to see the goal, he seems to be doing really well so far...how has McRae been playing? and Kevin Bodker?
maybe because some of them are not interested in playing college hockey the ushl is basically for players who is going to take the college route. i agree that the ohl is slightly better, but is sure isn't much. would have been fun to watch a game between the top ushl team and the knights. or owen sound.
Rusqueelin and MnGophs (correct) opinions are an exact summary as to why the USHL is below the CHL....too many other options for the top U.S. talent and the league's inability to retain the talent it does have for more than one or two years.
Since this will not change in the forseeable future, the USHL will always be a step behind the O.
Bluejays, I am sure Rusqueelin will back me up here, but both Kane and Gagner have paid attention to their own end.....I don't think Hunter would have it any other way (remember he did make an example out of Richmond and he even dogged Shremp because of his two way play, or lack of)
I have strong opinions on the subjest and the USHL is not better than the OHL IMO. The future NCAAers have three or in some cases 4 options. Shattucks, Parsie, Stafford, Chourney, Toews. The u18 team, EJ, JJ, Kessel, Stoa. High School, Oshie, Goligoski, Lee, Niskanen. And then the USHL. The American talent is pretty diluted throughout the leagues. Bring all those players into one league. And you have a very strong argument. And the USHL is improving greatly. But still has a ways to go.
Scoring is another story. The USHL does not see a lot of high scorers. Only about the top 10 were over a point per. And i think Kane was at a point per in games vs NCAA for the u18 team. Can never compare numbers in different leagues.
SHATTUCK ST. MARYS...not shattucks...there is no S on the end
Totally agree with you, redwingsfan. Matt Auffrey was set to be Wisconsin's 13th forward last season (he played just one game for the Badgers in their first few series), and rather than continuing to be a regular healthy scratch, he jumped to the OHL, where he promptly put up 50 points in 59 games with Kitchener.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=78641
For who Team USA or Team Canada?
Will he get invited and would he make either team?