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If the NHL wants to have a salary cap, should it be expected that they will put a cap on the price of tickets?
I'm asking, if the NHL is going to force a cap on the $ a team is allowed to spend on talent, should the NHL do something about the price of tickets and lower them since in a lot of the better markets they're way too high?Kodiak said:I'm not sure about the question. Are you asking should the owners do it or is it likely that the owners will do it?
Leafaholix said:If the NHL wants to have a salary cap, should it be expected that they will put a cap on the price of tickets?
Brooklyn Ranger said:Dream On! We all know that under a capitalist economic system, prices are set by the market. The underlying cost of doing business is only part of the equation.
Buffaloed said:If the season ticket holders in ONE city organized and refused to renew if they couldn't buy tickets at their price, the team would have to concede. Season ticket holders in other cities would soon follow, and eventually it would trickle down to all tickets. I'm aware of the NHL Fans Association ( NHLFA.com ). All they do is whine and take polls. Its all words and no "action". What needs to be done is to organize the season ticket holders in one city at the grassroots level and make demands on management.
I in the Eye said:IMO, this is the next big thing in professional sports - with player salaries being the last big thing...
Not just hockey season ticket holders, but season ticket holders of ALL North American professional sports united in a single association with a common voice...
Buffaloed said:Why would the NHL or the NHLPA support a ticket cap? Even under the NHL proposal the cap will grow as revenues grow. The surest way for revenues to increase is by raising ticket prices.
If fans want a ticket cap, they have to become a party to negotiations. It takes leverage to be recognized. Polls and complaining won't do it. The only thing the NHL looks at is whether the tickets are being sold. Hockey fans need to form their own kind of "union", particularly season ticket holders. Season ticket holders would have a lot of clout if they organized. Teams depend on those season ticket renewals to predict revenues.
If the season ticket holders in ONE city organized and refused to renew if they couldn't buy tickets at their price, the team would have to concede. Season ticket holders in other cities would soon follow, and eventually it would trickle down to all tickets. I'm aware of the NHL Fans Association ( NHLFA.com ). All they do is whine and take polls. Its all words and no "action". What needs to be done is to organize the season ticket holders in one city at the grassroots level and make demands on management.
Epsilon said:This will never happen because a large number of the season ticket holders are corporations who use the tickets to entertain clients, and really couldn't care less. Can you imagine the hypocricy of Nortel and BCE showing up at a Leafs game complaining about the "greedy millionaire players"?
I in the Eye said:Well, IMO, season ticket holders are clearly stakeholders in professional sports... The owners have a lot of $, the players have a lot of $, and if the season ticket holders have a lot of $, IMO, this doesn't make their 'position' any less important... IMO, how much money someone (or a company) makes shouldn't play into what is 'fair' or 'right'... Should season ticket holders have a formal say/vote into what season ticket prices should be? Good question I think... and one worthy of a debate at some point, IMO... As individual consumers, we already 'vote' based on how we decide to spend our $... But I don't think that it would be unreasonable for season ticket holders to also have a 'group' voice... After all, some hockey fans are 'addicts' and constantly need their 'hockey fix' Are they in a reasonable state of mind to make rationale decisions? If gamblers can be recognized as having an addiction, why can't sports fanatics?
Yes, I'm going overboard above, but professional sports business is all about $... a lot of money with constant cash flow being generated by season ticket holders... it's been said that professional sports CBA negotiations are, 'a fight between millionaires and billionaires'... Imagine the hypocrisy if the Leafs (and the Leaf players) claimed that their season ticket holders (regardless who they are, and how much they earn) are "greedy millionaires"...
I know that it would **** me off as a regular game goer...
Epsilon said:Season ticket holders are not "stakeholders" and there is no way they should have a vote on the prices they pay. They are customers who choose each year whether or not to pay for their season ticket's worth of entertainment.
Are all the companies who own licenses for Windows and Office XP "stakeholders" in Microsoft? And do they get a vote on what their license renewal fees are? No and no.
Epsilon said:Season ticket holders are not "stakeholders" and there is no way they should have a vote on the prices they pay. They are customers who choose each year whether or not to pay for their season ticket's worth of entertainment.
Are all the companies who own licenses for Windows and Office XP "stakeholders" in Microsoft? And do they get a vote on what their license renewal fees are? No and no.
discostu said:Indifference is the most powerful message that could be sent.