Salary Cap: Salary Cap/Roster Thread - As we look forward

[Turin]

Lidstrom
Gonchar
Keith
Chara
Doughty
Keith
Doughty
Keith
Letang
Dumoulin/Schultz
Carlson/Orlov/Niskanen

You better have a sick top d-man, get luck as f*** (17 Pens) or have legit depth on every pairing (Caps) and a psuedo number one in Carlson.

 

[domaug]

All this talk of center depth and no-one has mentioned poor Rowney

poor fella.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Anyone watching the Penguins last year knows our D and subsequent shitty netminding more often than not were the real problems.

People passing the buck on Matt Murray need to get bent. That kid needs to put 2017-18 behind him and do what we know he's capable of. He was awful more than he wasn't. Fact.

Letang is 31, makes a lot of coin and is massively prone to injuries and freak medical conditions. He's not getting dealt, simply based on the fact the return wouldn't be good enough to warrant moving a true #1D, when D was a huge f***ing issue last year. It's lunacy.

 

[TNT87]

I'm both right now. Work your magic JR. Fleece some team.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lidstrom
Gonchar
Keith
Chara
Doughty
Keith
Doughty
Keith
Letang
Dumoulin/Schultz
Carlson/Orlov/Niskanen

You better have a sick top d-man, get luck as **** (17 Pens) or have legit depth on every pairing (Caps) and a psuedo number one in Carlson.

Caps top three was really, really good. I’d take Orlov here in a heartbeat.

 

[domaug]

Adrian Dater is reporting the Avs are closing in on a deal (gonna look for the tweet). Said it could be for a goaltender.

Either Grubauer or Anderson IMO. Probably Grubauer.

 

[Empoleon8771]

He's out of the Penguins price range, he wants over $5 million or so.

 

[Turin]

Anyone watching the Penguins last year knows our D and subsequent ****ty netminding more often than not were the real problems.

People passing the buck on Matt Murray need to get bent. That kid needs to put 2017-18 behind him and do what we know he's capable of. He was awful more than he wasn't. Fact.

Letang is 31, makes a lot of coin and is massively prone to injuries and freak medical conditions. He's not getting dealt, simply based on the fact the return wouldn't be good enough to warrant moving a true #1D, when D was a huge ****ing issue last year. It's lunacy.

You’re right on Murray. I don’t think you’re right on Letang. 50 point, cup winning dmen who play 25 minutes a night always have value.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I like Skinner but pursuing him seems... odd. It feels like just about the last type of move I would have made after this last postseason.

Have to hope JR's working the phones like Vishnu hatching some Machiavellian 3-way deal like the heist he pulled for Brassard.

 

[Turin]

Caps top three was really, really good. I’d take Orlov here in a heartbeat.

I’m willing to deal Letang for a Orlov/Schmidt package, maybe. Or a Trouba/Provorov (obviously and not happening) type of young player.. but just bringing in a second pairing guy could be disastrous.

 

[domaug]

Adrian Dater is reporting the Avs are closing in on a deal (gonna look for the tweet). Said it could be for a goaltender.

Either Grubauer or Anderson IMO. Probably Grubauer.

found it, though i'm probably sharing this in the wrong thread anyway.

 

[Turin]

He's out of the Penguins price range, he wants over $5 million or so.

I wouldn’t want him either, he’s a good if not unspectacular middle-six guy. Would make Hags look like a steal at 5 mil.

 

[KIRK]

Have to hope JR's working the phones like Vishnu hatching some Machiavellian 3-way deal like the heist he pulled for Brassard.

That wouldn't be the first time he's tried to make a 3-way deal this summer.

 

[ImporterExporter]

You’re right on Murray. I don’t think you’re right on Letang. 50 point, cup winning dmen who play 25 minutes a night always have value.

I agree he has value. But when he's being just average above the shoulders is a top 10 Dman in this league IMO. I don't think for one second another team is going to give us near enough value to make trading a top 10 Dman feasible. Especially when D is a big question mark heading into the year. If he was 26 I'd say he'd return enough. If he cost a bit less or didn't have an extensive medical history I'd say he'd probably return enough. None of those things are reality though.

Let's see what Letang does this coming year. He was pretty putrid most of the season, so IMO the chances he improves, at least somewhat is pretty strong given his ability and extra rest this summer provides. Just needs to clean up some of the mental lapses, which is the real wild card.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

That wouldn't be the first time he's tried to make a 3-way deal this summer.

 

[Peat]

found it, though i'm probably sharing this in the wrong thread anyway.

Maybe there be a Draft GDT? Dunno if that's usual.

 

[Shrimper]

Reckon Lindholm will go to Montreal. I mean, they need a C. Right?

 

[Turin]

I agree he has value. But when he's being just average above the shoulders is a top 10 Dman in this league IMO. I don't think for one second another team is going to give us near enough value to make trading a top 10 Dman feasible. Especially when D is a big question mark heading into the year. If he was 26 I'd say he'd return enough. If he cost a bit less or didn't have an extensive medical history I'd say he'd probably return enough. None of those things are reality though.

Let's see what Letang does this coming year. He was pretty putrid most of the season, so IMO the chances he improves, at least somewhat is pretty strong given his ability and extra rest this summer provides. Just needs to clean up some of the mental lapses, which is the real wild card.

Even though he looked like an idiot, he still almost single handedly elevated the Pens from bottom 10 in possession last season to 5th this year. That’s not everything, but it says a lot that the Pens are dominating when he’s on the ice.. he just made ridiculous mistakes that negated that too often this year.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Maybe there be a Draft GDT? Dunno if that's usual.

It's quite usual. We should probably do that.

 

[Pens x]

All this talk of center depth and no-one has mentioned poor Rowney

Please don’t even mention his name here. Hopefully JR took him out back...

 

[Jag68Sid87]

Anyone watching the Penguins last year knows our D and subsequent ****ty netminding more often than not were the real problems.

People passing the buck on Matt Murray need to get bent. That kid needs to put 2017-18 behind him and do what we know he's capable of. He was awful more than he wasn't. Fact.

Letang is 31, makes a lot of coin and is massively prone to injuries and freak medical conditions. He's not getting dealt, simply based on the fact the return wouldn't be good enough to warrant moving a true #1D, when D was a huge ****ing issue last year. It's lunacy.

Our biggest issue on D is Letang. If he actually played like a true No. 1, which is the way our cap is constructed, we wouldn't be talking about the D being an abomination.

We have two options: trade Letang and fix the back end, or keep him and try to balance the scoring up front as much as humanly possible to try to outscore our mistakes.

 

[ColePens]

We will put a hold on this as the GDT is open for the Draft. This will re-open as a new thread after the weekend.