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Aug 14, 2011
14,622
5,683
All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.
2017-18 salary ceiling$75,000,000
Projected dollars committed
74,298,633​
2016-17 bonus overage
50,000​
Approximate cap space
668,239
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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Evgeni Malkin
C​
31​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
9,500,000​
Sidney Crosby
C​
30​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
8,700,000​
Phil Kessel
RW​
29​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
6,800,000​
Patric Hornqvist
RW​
30​
4,250,000​
UFA
Carl Hagelin
LW​
29​
4,000,000​
4,000,000​
UFA
Conor Sheary
LW​
25​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
3,000,000​
Riley Sheahan
C​
25​
2,075,000​
RFA
Ryan Reaves
RW​
30​
1,125,000​
UFA
Jake Guentzel
LW​
22​
734,167​
734,167​
RFA
Josh Archibald
RW​
24​
675,000​
675,000​
RFA
Greg McKegg
C​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Bryan Rust
RW​
25​
640,000​
RFA
Scott Wilson
LW​
25​
635,000​
RFA
Tom Kuhnhackl
LW​
25​
625,000​
RFA
Carter Rowney
C​
28​
612,500​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Kris Letang
D​
30​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
7,250,000​
Justin Schultz
D​
27​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
5,500,000​
Brian Dumoulin
D​
26​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
4,100,000​
Olli Maatta
D​
23​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
4,083,333​
Matt Hunwick
D​
32​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
2,250,000​
Ian Cole
D​
28​
2,100,000​
UFA
Chad Ruhwedel
D​
27​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Matt Murray
G​
23​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
3,750,000​
Tristan Jarry
G​
22​
630,833​
RFA
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WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward..................................
Pos.
Age
..........2017-18
..........2018-19
..........2019-20
Zach Aston-Reese
LW​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Adam Johnson
C​
23​
925,000​
925,000​
RFA
Thomas Di Pauli
C​
23​
742,500​
RFA
Freddie Tiffels
LW​
22​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Sam Miletic
LW​
20​
710,000​
710,000​
710,000​
Teddy Blueger
C​
23​
705,000​
RFA
Daniel Sprong
RW​
20​
692,500​
RFA
Dominik Simon
C​
23​
692,500​
RFA
Jean-Sebastien Dea
C​
23​
650,000​
RFA
Garrett Wilson
LW​
24​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Greg McKegg
C​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Tom Sestito
LW​
29​
650,000​
UFA
Defense
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Andrey Pedan
D​
24​
750,000​
RFA
Jeff Taylor
D​
23​
742,500​
742,500​
RFA
Ethan Prow
D​
24​
730,000​
RFA
Lukas Bengtsson
D​
24​
705,000​
RFA
Frank Corrado
D​
24​
650,000​
RFA
Jarred Tinordi
D​
25​
650,000​
RFA
Zach Trotman
D​
27​
650,000​
UFA
Kevin Czuczman
D​
26​
650,000​
UFA
Chris Summers
D​
29​
650,000​
650,000​
UFA
Goalie
Pos.
Age
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20
Sean Maguire
G​
25​
705,000​
RFA
Casey DeSmith
G​
25​
675,000​
675,000​
UFA
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SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Contract
Filip Gustavsson
G​
19​
Lulea HF (SHL)​
3 years/775,833 per​
Alex D'Orio
G​
18​
Saint John (QMJHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
Jordy Bellerive
C​
18​
Lethbridge (WHL)​
3 years/716,667 per​
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UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player
Pos.
Age
Current team
Niclas Almari
D​
19​
HPK (Liiga)
Anthony Angello
F​
21​
Cornell (ECAC)
Dane Birks
D​
21​
Michigan Tech (WCHA)
Kasper Bjorkqvist
F​
19​
Providence (HEA)
Jan Drozg
F​
18​
Shawinigan (QMJHL)
Connor Hall
D​
19​
Kitchener (OHL)
Ryan Jones
D​
21​
Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)
Sam Lafferty
F​
22​
Brown (ECAC)
Zachary Lauzon
D​
18​
Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
Joe Masonius
D​
20​
Connecticut (HEA)
Linus Olund
F​
20​
Brynas IF (SHL)
Antti Palojarvi
D​
18​
Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)
Nikita Pavlychev
F​
20​
Penn State (Big Ten)
Clayton Phillips
D​
17​
Fargo (USHL)
Will Reilly
D​
19​
RPI (ECAC)
Dominik Uher
C​
24​
HC Sparta Praha (ELH)
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Empoleon8771

Registered User
Aug 25, 2015
80,386
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What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.
 

SEALBound

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Jun 13, 2010
40,091
18,200
I'd sooner go after a RW for Crosby, it's just a question of how do the Penguins get that player? I like Sheary-Sheahan-Hornqvist as a line right now and Malkin and Kessel should stay together (also because Sheahan and Kessel don't mesh well together IMO).

You could also add a LWer and have the top line be Guentzel-Crosby-Rust, but I'm not sure I'm that big of a fan of that top line. I actually think Kane would be a phenomenal LWer for Malkin and Kessel, but that doesn't solve the issues with Crosby's line IMO.

I think the primary goal right now should be adding a good offensive bottom-6 center, with the plans of having a 3A and a 3B line in your bottom-6. Have something like Sheary-Center-Hornqvist as your offensive 3rd line and Hagelin-Sheahan-RW as your defensive 3rd line. If Sheahan rebounds and becomes good enough offensively between Sheary and Hornqvist, I still think the Penguins should add a defensively strong 4C.

I'd want to at the very least, test Sprong there before exploring other options. We've seen what youthful infusion can go for a team two years in a row now.

What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.

I'd be down for that depending on the price.
 

Rufus

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May 27, 2014
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What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.
I dig this idea. He's got a good contract that expires at the end of this year. Hovered around 50% or above in FO percentage for his career and could really make that 2nd PP unit even better
 

Honour Over Glory

Fire Sully
Jan 30, 2012
77,316
42,447
It's nice to see lines 2 and 3 starting to come together and I wouldn't tinker with those too much if I were Sullivan.

Rust, Malkin, Kessel - Needs to stay together.
Sheary, Sheahan, Hornqvist - Man I love how all 3 worked as a unit.

If only Sid had a right winger that could find the slot and had an amazing shot. If only...
 
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Riptide

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Dec 29, 2011
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6,520
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What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.

Wouldn't he just be more or less what we are currently seeing in Sheahan - a defensive bottom 6C? If we're going to go get someone who fits that mold, there are a lot of other options out there that probably will not cost as much, from teams who are looking to sell, rather then salvage their season.

If we're getting a different C at this point in time (or anytime before the TD), it had better be someone who's known for his offense/two way game... otherwise we might as well just stick with Sheahan and hope he can find that confidence.
 

Dipsy Doodle

Rent A Barn
May 28, 2006
76,528
21,072
I like Test Tube and he's better than any of our present bottom 6 center options, but I hope we aim higher than that if we only make one more center acquisition this year.
 

Honour Over Glory

Fire Sully
Jan 30, 2012
77,316
42,447
I wait until November is over, to fully assess what we have now that there are more home games, the games have breaks in between and no back 2 backs every freaking weekend. I like what I am seeing out Sheahan lately even though everyone here seems to not be.

I hope JR waits until December.
 

CanadianPensFan1

Registered User
Jun 13, 2014
7,051
2,049
Canada
Hey gang,

Haven't been around in awhile. Life has been hectic to say the least.

This team boy. They giveth and they taketh away. From two cups to .. this.

There is more than one thing wrong with this team. Sid and letang have been incredibly underwhelming. Jake has been largely invisible. The 4th line had been about as meh as it's ever been. The team, as a whole, looks ... broken. Sure they have some good spurts to he sure. But overall, they look like 20 random players who have never played together before. There s no cohesion. No fluidness. Not resembling what had them win back to back.

While Cullen and bonino were losses, let's not pretend that we lost Sid and Geno.

I'm not sure what's wrong. Coaching? Too tired from 2 runs? Complacency/lost the drive to win after winning back to back? I don't know.

Whatever it is, I don't think it can or will be fixed by one single thing. That's the frustrating part. I'm not advocating anything in this post. I'm not even "complaining." They've earned enough free will that I'm willing to give it more time. But something's gotta give.

That's all for now :)
 

EliteGoaltending

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Jan 7, 2016
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It's nice to see lines 2 and 3 starting to come together and I wouldn't tinker with those too much if I were Sullivan.

Rust, Malkin, Kessel - Needs to stay together.
Sheary, Sheahan, Hornqvist - Man I love how all 3 worked as a unit.

If only Sid had a right winger that could find the slot and had an amazing shot. If only...

Line 2 started to come together with Guentzel and Hagelin on LW. Before that Malkin and Kessel produced mostly on PP.

Rust isn't a good fit in that spot. That line does so much better with Hagelin and Guentzel(very small sample size tho) at LW. They just can't move the puck with Rust and they're getting very little O zone time when they play together. And that O zone time mostly spend on unsuccessful board battles. With Hagelin and Guentzel, Malkin and Kessel are moving the puck in all three zones so much better and they actually have space in O zone and have the cycling game going with these trios.
So, I see Hagelin and Guentzel as the only good fits on the roster as a LW with Malkin and Kessel.

Ideally, you play Rust on a 3rd line RW. But seems right now he does better on the 1st line than Hornqvist. Plus this year in general he looks so much better on the 1st line with Guentzel and Crosby than he did there last year.
But in a long run I wouldn't want Rust on the 1st line, because I doubt he can be a consistent enough producer for top 6. And if Hornqvist isn't a fit on the 1st line anymore for whatever reason, then Idk.
 
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66-30-33

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Jan 24, 2006
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Hey gang,

Haven't been around in awhile. Life has been hectic to say the least.

This team boy. They giveth and they taketh away. From two cups to .. this.

There is more than one thing wrong with this team. Sid and letang have been incredibly underwhelming. Jake has been largely invisible. The 4th line had been about as meh as it's ever been. The team, as a whole, looks ... broken. Sure they have some good spurts to he sure. But overall, they look like 20 random players who have never played together before. There s no cohesion. No fluidness. Not resembling what had them win back to back.

While Cullen and bonino were losses, let's not pretend that we lost Sid and Geno.

I'm not sure what's wrong. Coaching? Too tired from 2 runs? Complacency/lost the drive to win after winning back to back? I don't know.

Whatever it is, I don't think it can or will be fixed by one single thing. That's the frustrating part. I'm not advocating anything in this post. I'm not even "complaining." They've earned enough free will that I'm willing to give it more time. But something's gotta give.

That's all for now :)

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Night Shift

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Nov 3, 2014
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What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.

I think it all depends what the oilers look like (record wise) by the deadline. They came into the season with high expectations and are still are contenders in the west. They got off to a terrible start and its still too early to write them off yet. If the oilers get their **** together I don't see Letestu available. Otherwise it'll be an overpayment Despres Lovejoy style type of trade...
 

Night Shift

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Nov 3, 2014
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This team boy. They giveth and they taketh away. From two cups to .. this.

Not trying to derail your post but to keep this in perspective..I just missed the first 2 cups because I became a fan in 1995. There was a (what seemed like a very long time) I thought I would never see them win. Then I got to see them win 3....Idk I'm pretty dam happy and grateful at this point.
 

Nakawick

Minty Fresh
Apr 5, 2010
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What do people think about bringing back Letestu to be the other bottom-6 center? I think he'd be a very similar player to Cullen if the Penguins would bring him in to either be the 3C or 4C.
someone said there are worse options,.... there are certainly better ones.
 

Empoleon8771

Registered User
Aug 25, 2015
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Wouldn't he just be more or less what we are currently seeing in Sheahan - a defensive bottom 6C? If we're going to go get someone who fits that mold, there are a lot of other options out there that probably will not cost as much, from teams who are looking to sell, rather then salvage their season.

If we're getting a different C at this point in time (or anytime before the TD), it had better be someone who's known for his offense/two way game... otherwise we might as well just stick with Sheahan and hope he can find that confidence.

Letestu's career numbers are pretty damn close to Sheahan's best individual season. Letestu is well above Sheahan offensively, there's a big difference between the two.
 
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Tender Rip

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Feb 12, 2007
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I'll again point out that it is a decent year for waiting things out, and that developments keep confirming this.
Very little separation anywhere, and few teams look elite league wide - any kind of surge to normal form on our part and we are set with 1st or 2nd in the Metro.

We know that Tampa are good and a contender this season - and we (and every prognosticator) knew that was going to be the case before the season.
We know Arizona sucks - and we knew that before the season.
We also knew that there would be no BAAAD teams in the Metro, and with the Devils currently leading the division, that seems more true than anyone could have known, even if I will eat my shoes if they stay a playoff team.

Anyway, the Pens have looked pretty bad for the majority, have seen Crosby be a shadow of what he will likely be when it matters; we have seen Letang have all the "getting things together" struggles one could have feared, we have a ridiculous PDO, we have played a ton of away games and have had to abort our backup goalie as it was a gamble that most manifestly did NOT pan out. And with all this we are right there.... one game behind our most likely Metro rivals this season (Columbus).
Sure we need another C before the playoffs - but we are going to have to wait out teams falling out of contention and then JR needs to pounce. With as few teams looking legit as is the case this season, it remains an amazing window for the reigning champs.

I really cannot find it in me to be concerned. Even less so with Phil taking it to a completely different level effort wise over the last five or six games, than he did last regular season and in the earliest going this year. This Phil will work out both on the second and third lines and be a difference maker, and I'll be very happy to shut up about him... except to praise. But I am curious what lit that fire, because effort wise he went from atrocious straight to playoff mode.
 

Riptide

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Letestu's career numbers are pretty damn close to Sheahan's best individual season. Letestu is well above Sheahan offensively, there's a big difference between the two.

And he's on pace for 22 pts this year, and while he hit 35 pts last year, he only hit 25 the year before. So I stand by what I said before. All we're getting out of Letestu is what we hope Sheahan can do - nothing more, and nothing less. So if we're going to be bringing someone in, we need to be aiming a lot higher than that.
 

Tom Hanks

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Mark Letestu? Is Joe Vitale not availale?

Let’s bring Zach Boychuk back to the NHL. He liked one of my Instagram posts of my dog. :laugh: Pretty random just like his ability to score.
 
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WayneSid9987

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Nov 24, 2009
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I don't think the Oil wanna trade Letestu anytime soon. RNH is the guy they'll deal.

In terms of higher offensive C's this season, i'd probably put RNH, maybe Spezza, maybe Bjugstad shaking loose. The Galchenyuk stuff has sort of died down since he's found some chemistry with Drouin.
Way things are headed, a Bozak or Plekanec rental may be the best JR can do this year. Then theres the mayybe Sedin or Thornton rentals...

Then you look at struggling/really injured teams and maybe Soderberg, Vermette. Those types may shake loose.
Does ARI turn around and sell a Stepan right after signing him cuz the C demand is high right now? Dunno but i wouldn't put it past Chayka.

Sorta where my mind is right now with what i see going on around the league. I know if guys like RNH, Spezza, Bjugstad, Stepan were available, teams like MTL, CBJ, NYR, CAR would probably have heavy interest. How much would JR have? Dunno but i think he'd have interest in a few of those upper echelon C's.

I dunno. It'll be interesting as more things change in the league again from late Nov. into Dec. but eventually JR will beef up the C position. Pretty positive on that.
 
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