Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building - Locked in until July

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  1. ColePens

    ColePens RIP parabola

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    All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.
    2017-18 salary ceiling$75,000,000
    Projected Cap Hit
    74,824,703​
    Projected LTIR Used
    84,259​
    Approximate Cap Space
    $259,556
    Roster Size
    24​
    Contracts
    46/50​

    PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

    Forward..................................
    Pos.
    Age
    ..........2017-18
    ..........2018-19
    ..........2019-20
    Evgeni Malkin
    C​
    31​
    9,500,000​
    9,500,000​
    9,500,000​
    Sidney Crosby
    C​
    30​
    8,700,000​
    8,700,000​
    8,700,000​
    Phil Kessel
    RW​
    29​
    6,800,000​
    6,800,000​
    6,800,000​
    Patric Hornqvist
    RW​
    30​
    4,250,000​
    5,300,000​
    5,300,000​
    Carl Hagelin
    LW​
    29​
    4,000,000​
    4,000,000​
    UFA
    Conor Sheary
    LW​
    25​
    3,000,000​
    3,000,000​
    3,000,000​
    Derick Brassard
    C​
    30​
    3,000,000​
    3,000,000​
    UFA
    Riley Sheahan
    C​
    25​
    2,075,000​
    RFA
    Zach Aston-Reese
    LW​
    23​
    925,000​
    925,000​
    RFA
    Jake Guentzel
    LW​
    22​
    734,167​
    734,167​
    RFA
    Dominik Simon
    C/RW​
    23​
    692,500​
    RFA
    Bryan Rust
    RW​
    25​
    640,000​
    RFA
    Tom Kuhnhackl
    LW​
    25​
    625,000​
    RFA
    Carter Rowney
    C​
    28​
    612,500​
    UFA
    Defense
    Pos.
    Age
    2017-18
    2018-19
    2019-20
    Kris Letang
    D​
    30​
    7,250,000​
    7,250,000​
    7,250,000​
    Justin Schultz
    D​
    27​
    5,500,000​
    5,500,000​
    5,500,000​
    Brian Dumoulin
    D​
    26​
    4,100,000​
    4,100,000​
    4,100,000​
    Olli Maatta
    D​
    23​
    4,083,333​
    4,083,333​
    4,083,333​
    Matt Hunwick
    D​
    32​
    2,250,000​
    2,250,000​
    2,250,000​
    Jamie Oleksiak
    D​
    25​
    964,688​
    RFA
    Chad Ruhwedel
    D​
    27​
    650,000​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Goalie
    Pos.
    Age
    2017-18
    2018-19
    2019-20
    Matt Murray
    G​
    23​
    3,750,000​
    3,750,000​
    3,750,000​
    Tristan Jarry
    G​
    22​
    630,833​
    RFA
    Casey DeSmith
    G​
    25​
    675,000​
    675,000​
    UFA
    Non-Roster Players
    Forward..................................
    Pos.
    Age
    ..........2017-18
    ..........2018-19
    ..........2019-20
    Adam Johnson
    C​
    23​
    925,000​
    925,000​
    RFA
    Josh Jooris
    C​
    27​
    775,000​
    UFA
    Thomas Di Pauli
    C​
    23​
    742,500​
    RFA
    Freddie Tiffels
    LW​
    22​
    742,500​
    742,500​
    RFA
    Sam Miletic
    LW​
    20​
    710,000​
    710,000​
    710,000​
    Teddy Blueger
    C​
    23​
    705,000​
    RFA
    Tobias Lindberg
    LW​
    22​
    693,333​
    RFA
    Daniel Sprong
    RW​
    20​
    692,500​
    RFA
    Jean-Sebastien Dea
    C​
    23​
    650,000​
    RFA
    Garrett Wilson
    LW​
    24​
    650,000​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Greg McKegg
    C​
    25​
    650,000​
    RFA
    Tom Sestito
    LW​
    29​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Defense
    Pos.
    Age
    2017-18
    2018-19
    2019-20
    Andrey Pedan
    D​
    24​
    750,000​
    RFA
    Jeff Taylor
    D​
    23​
    742,500​
    742,500​
    RFA
    Ethan Prow
    D​
    24​
    730,000​
    RFA
    Lukas Bengtsson
    D​
    24​
    705,000​
    RFA
    Frank Corrado
    D​
    24​
    650,000​
    RFA
    Jarred Tinordi
    D​
    25​
    650,000​
    RFA
    Zach Trotman
    D​
    27​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Kevin Czuczman
    D​
    26​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Chris Summers
    D​
    29​
    650,000​
    650,000​
    UFA
    Goalie
    Pos.
    Age
    2017-18
    2018-19
    2019-20
    Michael Leighton
    G​
    36​
    650,000​
    UFA
    SIGNED PROSPECTS
    Player
    Pos.
    Age
    Current team
    Contract
    Alex D'Orio
    G​
    18​
    Saint John (QMJHL)​
    3 years/716,667 per​
    Jordy Bellerive
    C​
    18​
    Lethbridge (WHL)​
    3 years/716,667 per​
    Sam Lafferty
    F​
    22​
    W-B/S ATO​
    2 years/925,000 per​

    UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

    Player
    Pos.
    Age
    Current team
    Niclas Almari
    D​
    19​
    HPK (Liiga)
    Anthony Angello
    F​
    21​
    Cornell (ECAC)
    Dane Birks
    D​
    21​
    Michigan Tech (WCHA)
    Kasper Bjorkqvist
    F​
    19​
    Providence (HEA)
    Jan Drozg
    F​
    18​
    Shawinigan (QMJHL)
    Connor Hall
    D​
    19​
    Kitchener (OHL)
    Ryan Jones
    D​
    21​
    Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)
    Zachary Lauzon
    D​
    18​
    Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
    Joe Masonius
    D​
    20​
    Connecticut (HEA)
    Linus Olund
    F​
    20​
    Brynas IF (SHL)
    Antti Palojarvi
    D​
    18​
    Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)
    Nikita Pavlychev
    F​
    20​
    Penn State (Big Ten)
    Clayton Phillips
    D​
    17​
    Fargo (USHL)
    Will Reilly
    D​
    19​
    RPI (ECAC)
    Dominik Uher
    C​
    24​
    HC Sparta Praha (ELH)
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  2. KIRK

    KIRK Registered User

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    Should the Pens make over the defense over the summer?

    Maatta?

    Letang?

    NOTE: As I wrote in the last thread, you will NOT replace Letang, but the question is if you can find two guys who combined can upgrade the mix over what you've got with Letang and Ruh/Hunwick. Maybe a pair of good skating defensemen, one of whom adds some physicality to the mix?
     
  3. Riptide

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    I'm not in a hurry in any way to move Letang - just too many ways that will backfire on us. The only way I'd move Maatta is if we're getting someone better coming back.
     
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    So, we'll keep the mix on defense and sprinkle some magic fairy dust to make it better? Or, are you fine with the mix as is?
     
  5. Andy99

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    I mean if they could get any really good players back for Letang, don’t you think he would have been traded back in December?

    I don’t think the return for Letang would be what people think or hope for. I think they could get more for Maatta but I doubt there’s any interest in trading him. But if we could trade Letang for Karlsson or someone that’s an upgrade, sure.

    Still don’t think they do anything other than get a third pairing D and try to replace Hunwick....
     
  6. theicebox

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    You can update Hornqvist's contract status in the table ;)
     
  7. JimmyTwoTimes

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    If its anything over 5.3 mil id let him walk. He wont age well
     
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    Still waiting/hoping Maatta improves. Still only 23 with plenty of experience aready starting out at 19 years old. Two cups. First healthy season in awhile.

    Is this what we are gonna see from him 2-3 years down the road or will he turn into a solid #2 dman? Hate to see him do that somewhere else.

    I do think we can get a great return for Letang, GMs around the league would love to have him...look what other dmen who are worse than him get traded for. Question is if the FO has the guts to make that big of a trade.
     
  9. KIRK

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    You know what, I asked @ColePens this yesterday, when he talked about the old Letang coming back. How many years of Sid/Geno do you gamble on it?

    I'm not saying it's an easy answer on Maatta or Letang, but this window may only be another 2-3 years and I'm not sure how keen I am about gambling it on a suspect mix magically crystallizing.
     
  10. pixiesfanyo

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    No, I don’t think they’d trade a defenseman with 23 points just because they could especially given he was recovering from injury.
     
  11. ColePens

    ColePens RIP parabola

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    My answer has been the same. I want to see him with a normal offseason and a full season. Just my opinion.
     
  12. KIRK

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    And a perfectly fair one to have.

    I actually do go back and forth. On the one hand, IF Letang could get it together again, it's a whole new ball game. On the other hand, might the team be better off with two different skating defensemen for the 8M+ that Letang and Ruh/Hunwick get?

    As for Maatta, just not my cup of tee for this defensive mix . . .

    It's my understanding that it was a lot more serious than people like you appreciate. There's a reason it took JR a week to have his mouthpieces quash the Letang rumors, and it wasn't because he finally awoke from a nap. It's because something was under serious consideration but didn't materialize because JR wanted a little more.
     
  13. DegenX

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    Done. Thanks for the reminder :)
     
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    As far back as this summer I've said that I'm not really content with the mix as it currently is, and that I'd like to get another quality PMD who's at least at a Schultz level, if not better. Ideally that PMD could be a FA or someone we acquire with spare parts (not holding my breath there). However if we had to move Maatta to fill that hole, I'd do so. Some have talked about Hajalmarsson, I wouldn't go after him - he's basically just another version of Maatta.

    Personally the only "locks" on our blueline are Letang, Dumoulin and Schultz. I'd rather not move Maatta... but if we were getting back someone who's a legit upgrade I'd do it. Oleksiak I'd move, however he has little value, so unless someone was offering up something that we couldn't say no to, I'd just hang onto him. Same with Ruhwedel. Hunwick I'd move just because.

    I know some are not opposed to moving Letang... I just do not see how we get better. That cap hit is pretty good as long as he's playing at a top pair level. Yes we can fill what he provides to us... but it would need to be by committee and it would almost certainly cost more. I'd much rather just go get another good PMD, and go from there.
     
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    Look, the one thing I love to hate about Rutherford is he is what I want from our GM. I believe Crosby and Malkin are the only players he won’t move. Kessel and Jake are probably slightly in that as well as Murray.

    I’m sure he would move Letang, but he is going to want the type of deal Rutherford would offer for Letang. Which is basically a D replacement, plus picks and a prospect. Or a package that allows you to bring in that replacement. The issue is what Rutherford views as a team need i.e. Hunwick, Lovejoy and Reaves

    I think the thing that bothers me about that post was “if he could move Letang”.

    I guarantee multiple teams put in offers for Letang.
     
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    I’m okay with changing the mix not named Letang and Dumoulin. I *might* deal Letang if there’s a significantly younger and proven player available, that’s it. Guys like Trouba, Lindholm, Slavin etc.
     
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    Letang?

    We'll all probably be dead before he gets in a normal offseason and a full season.
     
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    If we're all dead, imagine what's happened to Letang ...
     
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    I dont think theyd get more for Maatta, but I would guess that any return from Maatta will be closer to his actual value than what wed get from Letang.
     
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  20. Reigning Defending

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    I mean, if JR can find a way to deal Hunwick and Sheary, that leaves like $4m in cap space to go get a D-man. There are some decent options out there in free agency.

    It comes down to trusting ZAR and/or Sprong in the top-9. I'd have zero reservations about going into the season with one or both of them in the top-9 next year and seeing how the mesh/develop.
     
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    My dream is that LA will decide to part ways with Doughty because he wants too much money, but they want a cost-controlled RH shot elite offensive defenseman to replace him, so they deal DD to us straight-up for KL and we sign Doughty to an 8 year, 10 mil per contract.

    [​IMG]

     
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    Adam Larsson got Taylor Hall, so Olli Maatta must have some serious value if a team needs him enough. Colardo, Montreal, and Florida are teams I could see interest from.

    It feels weird looking for a defenseman rather than forward. I was just about to suggest Maatta for Galchenyuk, but then I caught myself.
     
  23. Sidney the Kidney

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    Should they? Yes.

    Will they? Probably not.

    But I just don't like the mix in the top four. As I wrote before, it feels like unless everyone plays absolutely at the top of their game, our defense seems to lack a #2 too often. We've got an inconsistent #1, then we've got three guys (Schultz, Dumoulin, Maatta), who play somewhere between a #3 (when they're on) to a #4 (when they're not at their absolute best).

    We need a McDonagh-type. Ironically enough, I think Niskanen could have been that guy if he'd stuck around.
     
  24. Honour Over Glory

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    What's the most the Cap can go up this summer? Man if it can get to 80m, we'd be ok if we dumped that sorry excuse of a hockey player Hunwick and dole out the raises to Rust, Oleksiak, etc.
     
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    I remember reading 78-82. So probably will be around 80 then
     
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