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[Ogrezilla]

Nope. Wonder what a Hagelin-Cullen-Sprong 4th line would be like though. Cullen and Hags can cover for Sprongs defensive mistakes.

A Cullen and Hags line would be starting in the D zone an awful lot. That doesn't seem like the spot Sully would use Sprong if that's the worry.

 

[Nakawick]

I still say he only went to Minn because the wife wanted to move the kids back.

should we make Cullen's wife part of the coaching staff?

 

[Tom Hanks]

am I crazy for thinking Hags is a bigger problem at 3LW than Sheahan is at 3C?

Not crazy but I can see Hags starting to turn it around. I also love Hags with Kessel.

In the current state having Hags, Sheahan, Kuhnhackl, Rowney and Reaves not really getting any goals is the problem. That’s too many. You want to have that kind of list at 1 or 2 max (as long as they contribute in other areas D, forecheck etc)

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I will always want Cullen back. He's that damn good, I don't care what's transpired in Minny this year.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Not crazy but I can see Hags starting to turn it around. I also love Hags with Kessel.

In the current state having Hags, Sheahan, Kuhnhackl, Rowney and Reaves not really getting any goals is the problem. That’s too many. You want to have that kind of list at 1 or 2 max (as long as they contribute in other areas D, forecheck etc)

I think both have been turning it around honestly. Hopefully they can keep doing it.

 

[Pens x]

I will always want Cullen back. He's that damn good, I don't care what's transpired in Minny this year.

It’s time to get over Cullen, seriously. It’s getting weird at this point. Sheahan is a fine replacement at 4C.

 

[Ogrezilla]

It’s time to get over Cullen, seriously. It’s getting weird at this point. Sheahan is a fine replacement at 4C.

Cullen's still an upgrade short term, can play LW, and would leave us with plenty of flexibility of still making another move.

 

[Ryder71]

Getting Cullen doesn’t stop us from getting a quality 3C

We only have so many assets so it would certainly hinder us in that regard.

Cullen did a good job every time we moved him to a scoring line the last two years. And he turned a 4th line of guys like Wilson and Kuhn into a decent scoring line.

He's 41 now, eventually those long playoff runs can take a toll. I think we need to look at other options.

 

[Ryder71]

It’s time to get over Cullen, seriously. It’s getting weird at this point. Sheahan is a fine replacement at 4C.

I agree, I understand Cullen has a following here and to his credit he did a great job. But that time IMO is over. Let's look to the future and find a younger more capable player that can propel us forward beyond even this season.

 

[Tom Hanks]

We only have so many assets so it would certainly hinder us in that regard.




He's 41 now, eventually those long playoff runs can take a toll. I think we need to look at other options.

Not really because Sheahan would be an asset too and it could give a team a replacement centre to make a trade easier (as part of a bigger deal obviously).

 

[Ogrezilla]

We only have so many assets so it would certainly hinder us in that regard.

Adding Cullen would allow us to add Sheahan to that list of assets we can spend for a 3C though.

He's 41 now, eventually those long playoff runs can take a toll. I think we need to look at other options.

I'm really not worried about that. The guy turned a line with guys like Wilson and Kuhn into the best 4th line in the league. He's so much better than our other 4C options that he has plenty of room to decline before I would be upset with him as our 4C.

 

[Pens x]

Cullen's still an upgrade short term, can play LW, and would leave us with plenty of flexibility of still making another move.

There aren’t many players that wouldn’t be an instant upgrade to our 4th line though.

 

[Ryder71]

Adding Cullen would allow us to add Sheahan to that list of assets we can spend for a 3C though.


I'm really not worried about that. The guy turned a line with guys like Wilson and Kuhn into the best 4th line in the league. He's so much better than our other 4C options that he has plenty of room to decline before I would be upset with him as our 4C.

Why would we want to trade Sheahan? He'd be great in a 4th line roll. He's young, cost controlled and according himself well enough here.

 

[66-30-33]

Cullen, Kane, defensive depth incase injuries for the playoffs. That should be what we are looking for. Also try a few WBS guys, the team needs more hunger on their roster.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Why would we want to trade Sheahan? He'd be great in a 4th line roll. He's young, cost controlled and according himself well enough here.

To get a 3C. A lot of teams could want a C coming back.

 

[Ryder71]

Not really because Sheahan would be an asset too and it could give a team a replacement centre to make a trade easier (as part of a bigger deal obviously).

So, we want to trade Sheahan to bring in a guy like Cullen? I fundamentally disagree with this approach.

 

[Ogrezilla]

There aren’t many players that wouldn’t be an instant upgrade to our 4th line though.

That's true. But not many of them have proven to fit into how we play as well as he has.

 

[Ogrezilla]

So, we want to trade Sheahan to bring in a guy like Cullen? I fundamentally disagree with this approach.

We don't want to trade Sheahan. But you usually don't want to trade what it costs to get good players. You have it backwards. We wouldn't trade Sheahan to make room for Cullen. We would have the flexibility to trade Sheahan because we added Cullen.

 

[Ryder71]

To get a 3C. A lot of teams could want a C coming back.

But if you keep Sheahan and add a bonafide 3c that helps your strength down the middle far more.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

To get a 3C. A lot of teams could want a C coming back.

I’d be surprised to see jr trade Sheahan now, tbh. A reclamation project is trending in the right direction and could bolster the C depth for awhile, even for a better 3C and with Cullen back.

 

[Tom Hanks]

So, we want to trade Sheahan to bring in a guy like Cullen? I fundamentally disagree with this approach.

We’d be trading Sheahan to bring in someone better.

Cullen coming in is seperate.

 

[Ogrezilla]

But if you keep Sheahan and add a bonafide 3c that helps your strength down the middle far more.

Does it? Is Sheahan better than Cullen?

And adding Cullen would allow us a better chance to add a bonafide 3C by giving us an extra asset we can afford to part with.

 

[Ogrezilla]

I’d be surprised to see jr trade Sheahan now, tbh. A reclamation project is trending in the right direction and could bolster the C depth for awhile, even for a better 3C and with Cullen back.

Probably true. But it would open up that extra option. Cullen moving to LW when we add another 3C would also be an option. He'd be as big of an upgrade over Kuhn as he is over Rowney.

 

[Ryder71]

We don't want to trade Sheahan. But you usually don't want to trade what it costs to get good players. You have it backwards. We wouldn't trade Sheahan to make room for Cullen. We would have the flexibility to trade Sheahan because we added Cullen.

It's still the same result however. My line of thinking is add a 3c and keep Sheahan. I'll put it this way, I'd rather have Sheahan than Cullen and use a different asset to get a 3c. I think that's are best course of action. And if we are to deal an asset I'd want to deal a winger, not a center like Sheahan.

 

[Ryder71]

Does it? Is Sheahan better than Cullen?

At this stage yes, I believe Sheahan is the much better option.