Salary Cap: Salary Cap & Roster Building | I like to do just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet

[DegenX]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2017-18 salary ceiling	$75,000,000
Projected dollars committed	74,298,633​
2016-17 bonus overage	50,000​
Approximate cap space	668,239​

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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward..................................	Pos.​	Age​	..........2017-18​	..........2018-19​	..........2019-20​
Evgeni Malkin	C​	31​	9,500,000​	9,500,000​	9,500,000​
Sidney Crosby	C​	30​	8,700,000​	8,700,000​	8,700,000​
Phil Kessel	RW​	29​	6,800,000​	6,800,000​	6,800,000​
Patric Hornqvist	RW​	30​	4,250,000​	UFA​
Carl Hagelin	LW​	29​	4,000,000​	4,000,000​	UFA​
Conor Sheary	LW​	25​	3,000,000​	3,000,000​	3,000,000​
Riley Sheahan	C​	25​	2,075,000​	RFA​
Ryan Reaves	RW​	30​	1,125,000​	UFA​
Jake Guentzel	LW​	22​	734,167​	734,167​	RFA​
Josh Archibald	RW​	24​	675,000​	675,000​	RFA​
Greg McKegg	C​	25​	650,000​	RFA​
Bryan Rust	RW​	25​	640,000​	RFA​
Scott Wilson	LW​	25​	635,000​	RFA​
Tom Kuhnhackl	LW​	25​	625,000​	RFA​
Carter Rowney	C​	28​	612,500​	UFA​
Defense	Pos.​	Age​	2017-18​	2018-19​	2019-20​
Kris Letang	D​	30​	7,250,000​	7,250,000​	7,250,000​
Justin Schultz	D​	27​	5,500,000​	5,500,000​	5,500,000​
Brian Dumoulin	D​	26​	4,100,000​	4,100,000​	4,100,000​
Olli Maatta	D​	23​	4,083,333​	4,083,333​	4,083,333​
Matt Hunwick	D​	32​	2,250,000​	2,250,000​	2,250,000​
Ian Cole	D​	28​	2,100,000​	UFA​
Chad Ruhwedel	D​	27​	650,000​	650,000​	UFA​
Goalie	Pos.​	Age​	2017-18​	2018-19​	2019-20​
Matt Murray	G​	23​	3,750,000​	3,750,000​	3,750,000​
Tristan Jarry	G​	22​	630,833​	RFA​

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WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward..................................	Pos.​	Age​	..........2017-18​	..........2018-19​	..........2019-20​
Zach Aston-Reese	LW​	23​	925,000​	925,000​	RFA​
Adam Johnson	C​	23​	925,000​	925,000​	RFA​
Thomas Di Pauli	C​	23​	742,500​	RFA​
Freddie Tiffels	LW​	22​	742,500​	742,500​	RFA​
Sam Miletic	LW​	20​	710,000​	710,000​	710,000​
Teddy Blueger	C​	23​	705,000​	RFA​
Daniel Sprong	RW​	20​	692,500​	RFA​
Dominik Simon	C​	23​	692,500​	RFA​
Jean-Sebastien Dea	C​	23​	650,000​	RFA​
Garrett Wilson	LW​	24​	650,000​	650,000​	UFA​
Greg McKegg	C​	25​	650,000​	RFA​
Tom Sestito	LW​	29​	650,000​	UFA​
Defense	Pos.​	Age​	2017-18​	2018-19​	2019-20​
Andrey Pedan	D​	24​	750,000​	RFA​
Jeff Taylor	D​	23​	742,500​	742,500​	RFA​
Ethan Prow	D​	24​	730,000​	RFA​
Lukas Bengtsson	D​	24​	705,000​	RFA​
Frank Corrado	D​	24​	650,000​	RFA​
Jarred Tinordi	D​	25​	650,000​	RFA​
Zach Trotman	D​	27​	650,000​	UFA​
Kevin Czuczman	D​	26​	650,000​	UFA​
Chris Summers	D​	29​	650,000​	650,000​	UFA​
Goalie	Pos.​	Age​	2017-18​	2018-19​	2019-20​
Sean Maguire	G​	25​	705,000​	RFA​
Casey DeSmith	G​	25​	675,000​	675,000​	UFA​

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SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player	Pos.​	Age​	Current team​	Contract​
Filip Gustavsson	G​	19​	Lulea HF (SHL)​	3 years/775,833 per​
Alex D'Orio	G​	18​	Saint John (QMJHL)​	3 years/716,667 per​
Jordy Bellerive	C​	18​	Lethbridge (WHL)​	3 years/716,667 per​

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UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player	Pos.​	Age​	Current team​
Niclas Almari	D​	19​	HPK (Liiga)
Anthony Angello	F​	21​	Cornell (ECAC)
Dane Birks	D​	21​	Michigan Tech (WCHA)
Kasper Bjorkqvist	F​	19​	Providence (HEA)
Jan Drozg	F​	18​	Shawinigan (QMJHL)
Connor Hall	D​	19​	Kitchener (OHL)
Ryan Jones	D​	21​	Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)
Sam Lafferty	F​	22​	Brown (ECAC)
Zachary Lauzon	D​	18​	Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)
Joe Masonius	D​	20​	Connecticut (HEA)
Linus Olund	F​	20​	Brynas IF (SHL)
Antti Palojarvi	D​	18​	Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)
Nikita Pavlychev	F​	20​	Penn State (Big Ten)
Clayton Phillips	D​	17​	Fargo (USHL)
Will Reilly	D​	19​	RPI (ECAC)
Dominik Uher	C​	24​	HC Sparta Praha (ELH)

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[larueskee]

Here is a good article on Cole by Tim Benz in the triblive.

There are good trades and bad trades. And the bad trades usually get labeled that way because they get made for the wrong reasons.
Those reasons are usually financial. For instance, when the Penguins traded away Jaromir Jagr.
Or when the Pirates trade away, well, just about anyone.
If defenseman Ian Cole gets dealt from the Penguins, as has been discussed quite publicly of late, it won't be strictly because of money.
But it might also be for the wrong reasons.
Speculation amongst media members who cover the team is that there is some sort of personality rift between Cole and coach Mike Sullivan. A lot of that belief stems from a sense that Cole is too chummy with the media for Sullivan's taste.
Yes, Cole is open with reporters. But I don't see that as a bad thing unless he is giving away tactical secrets, bashing teammates, or providing bulletin board material for opponents.
None of which I remember Cole doing to any severe degree.
For his part, Sullivan has bristled at the suggestion Cole has been scratched for the intent of keeping him healthy until a deal has been made, or for any type of personality clash.
“I think sometimes you guys make it up as you go,” Sullivan told reporters. “I don't know where this stuff comes from.”
Well a lot of people from competing outlets have made up the same story I guess.
But let's take the coach at his word. Let's assume there's no conflict with Cole. Why then is he being scratched?
“We've had a couple of games where the coach made a change on defense,” general manager Jim Rutherford said. “We'll have to see where that goes as we go forward.”
That's not exactly dousing the trade rumors, GMJR.
In one sense you could understand why Rutherford would want some smoke out there around Cole, even if there isn't a burning fire to trade him. He's in the final year of his contract and likely will be too expensive for Pittsburgh to resign against the salary cap next year.
Then there's the looming need to either keep or replace Patric Hornqvist, as well.
A shot-blocking defenseman who has been an important penalty-killing contributor on two Stanley Cup winners in the walk year of his deal may be a valuable trade commodity.
Then again, all those attributes are reasons why the Pens should keep Cole. Also, keep in mind Cole is currently less expensive than five other regular defensemen on the NHL roster.
Furthermore, Cole has a far better resume and measurables than Chad Ruhwedel or any of the other defensemen in Wilkes-Barre who would be replacements.
Cole's game hasn't been where it needs to be, particularly on Pittsburgh's leaky PK unit this year (26th in the NHL). The Notre Dame product is far from the only Penguin to be guilty of that, yet he seems to be the most scapegoated so far.
If Cole were to be traded, the assumption is that some quality forward scoring depth would come back to Pittsburgh in return. The Penguins have struggled in that area this year.
Although, Rutherford would have to keep in mind how much actual quality would be associated with such a player if he were to carry a price tag in the neighborhood of Cole's $2.1 million salary cap hit. The Penguins couldn't take on much more than that in return for Cole and remain cap compliant since they are within about a million dollars of the ceiling as it is.
As a comparison, Anaheim just dealt right-handed shooting defenseman Sami Vatanen to New Jersey. Vatanen is more expensive than Cole by $2.77 million. But he is slightly younger (26) than Cole (28), under contract through 2020, and has more offensive prowess.
What did he yield in return from the Devils? Forwards Adam Henrique, Joseph Blandisi and a third-round pick.
That's $5.66 million against the cap this year for two players who have totaled seven goals in 51 combined games. Henrique scored 30 times two years ago. But he was recently demoted to the fourth line in New Jersey.
Does that kind of offensive production at that price sound worth it to you for a defenseman who has been a staple in your top six for two straight playoff runs?
If Rutherford can do better than that in exchange for Cole, then I'm all for it. Then, in theory, that would make “hockey sense.”
But to deal him in an effort to throw good cap space after less than good promise of scoring in return, all in the pursuit of apparently eliminating some manageable personality rub?

 

[66-30-33]

Imagine our D with Karlsson...pipe dream I know.

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I dunno how the cap would work, would have to lose Letang with no retention and probably Kessel aswell.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Imagine our D with Karlsson...pipe dream I know.

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I dunno how the cap would work, would have to lose Letang with no retention and probably Kessel aswell.

Phil makes me smile though....... and I guess he scores a lot too

 

[EightyOne]

You just fill the quotation marks with whoever is in Wheeling.

Duh.

 

[mpp9]

Imagine our D with Karlsson...pipe dream I know.

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I dunno how the cap would work, would have to lose Letang with no retention and probably Kessel aswell.

Love to see him with Sid and Geno, but he’s not 5 mil better than Letang. And our young guys will be getting paid soon.

 

[Shady Machine]

Benz is an idiot.

 

[ColePens]

Benz is an idiot.

He would fit perfectly on HF. He's a guy who loves when a fire starts so he can pour gasoline on it. Sometimes he tries to pour gasoline on a hot day just to idiotically start a fire. That's his whole gimmick.

 

[JTG]

If JR trades Cole, it's pretty clear what he would be trading him for.

 

[Shady Machine]

He would fit perfectly on HF. He's a guy who loves when a fire starts so he can pour gasoline on it. Sometimes he tries to pour gasoline on a hot day just to idiotically start a fire. That's his whole gimmick.

Exactly right. I wouldn't be surprised if he did post here.

 

[Tom Hanks]

If JR trades Cole, it's pretty clear what he would be trading him for.

It’d have to be a 3C.

Maybe a really good bottom 6 LW and even then is it worth the trade off, probably not.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

All I want is for JR to drop his bullshit about not signing players during the season (Which he has, numerous times) and sign Hornqvist. That's all I f***ing want. For now.

 

[Gurglesons]

All I want is for JR to drop his bull**** about not signing players during the season (Which he has, numerous times) and sign Hornqvist. That's all I ****ing want. For now.

Yeah, no point in not signing Hornqvist, you make room for that type of player.

 

[Empoleon8771]

All I want is for JR to drop his bull**** about not signing players during the season (Which he has, numerous times) and sign Hornqvist. That's all I ****ing want. For now.

It's not even really true either, he signed a ton of guys in season over the last few years. I think all of Murray, Fleury, Maatta, Rust, Wilson and Kuhnhackl have gotten in season extensions under Rutherford.

 

[Riptide]

See it is the Penguins wading through the offers not Cole or his agent. Jeez.

Still clueless I see.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It’d have to be a 3C.

Maybe a really good bottom 6 LW and even then is it worth the trade off, probably not.

Bottom LW? We need an upgrade on Hagelin more than we need an upgrade on Sheahan in my books. Sheahan has proven, in his time here so far, that he can help wingers that are capable of producing, produce. Hagelin is not capable of producing. He's had turns with Crosby and Malkin and he's just offensively impotent.

Moving Cole for a 3C and moving Sheahan down solves nothing. There's no magical player out there that will make Hagelin produce like a top 9 player ever again. But on the 4LW, Hagelin can at least wreak havoc with forechecking.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Was it Hagelin-Rowney-Rust last game? Cause they looked great.

 

[Tom Hanks]

JR would wait on Hornqvist until after the deadline no matter what I’d imagine.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It's not even really true either, he signed a ton of guys in season over the last few years. I think all of Murray, Fleury, Maatta, Rust, Wilson and Kuhnhackl have gotten in season extensions under Rutherford.

Exactly, so his posturing of "Oh it'd be uncharacteristic of me" is horse shit. So it really irks me that he has done all of that, which we all know, and then Horny is still sitting there with no contract.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Was it Hagelin-Rowney-Rust last game? Cause they looked great.

I am 100% ok with that as the 4th line, I think Rust would still produce fairly well there and then it leaves the 3rd line that needs to be sorted out which I think JR can do with a move with Cole to pick up a winger and then promote or give one of DiPauli, ZAR, and when Sprong gets the green light from the coaching staff in WBS, him.


Sheary, Crosby, Hornqvist
Guentzel, Malkin, Kessel
XXXX, Sheahan, XXXX - Which can be DiPaul/ZAR, Sheahan, Winger they get, or Winger they get, Sheahan, DiPauli/ZAR - I believe ZAR/DiPauli play LW/RW.
Hagelin, Rowney, Rust

 

[Empoleon8771]

Was it Hagelin-Rowney-Rust last game? Cause they looked great.

Yeah that line looked really good I thought. I think you could see 2 of those guys being on the 4th line by the end of the year, I could see the 4th line being Hagelin-Sheahan-Rowney.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

I don't think we need to move/upgrade Hagelin. I get that he's not scoring, but he's still extremely fast, fits the system, is one of our only defensively responsible forwards, and plays LW. As much as his production sucks, he's not a guy we can/should move imo. I'd move Sheary before Hagelin for a few reasons; mainly their respective values to other teams (Sheary is infinitely higher, I'd venture to guess), and because I think we can afford to move/replace Sheary more easily than Hagelin--as crazy as that may sound when looking at their stats.

We'll see a big uptick in production when guys like Sid and Letang wake up, and Geno returns. Until then, it doesn't really matter if Hagelin's an offensive blackhole imo. He shouldn't be the guy we're relying on for production anyway. Not to completely acquit him for his lack of scoring, but in reality he's nowhere near the top of the list of guys we absolutely need numbers from.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Bottom LW? We need an upgrade on Hagelin more than we need an upgrade on Sheahan in my books. Sheahan has proven, in his time here so far, that he can help wingers that are capable of producing, produce. Hagelin is not capable of producing. He's had turns with Crosby and Malkin and he's just offensively impotent.

Moving Cole for a 3C and moving Sheahan down solves nothing. There's no magical player out there that will make Hagelin produce like a top 9 player ever again. But on the 4LW, Hagelin can at least wreak havoc with forechecking.

Personally I’d rather a better 3C and Hagelin than Sheahan and a better LW. Then try for a cheap LW for the 4th line.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't think we need to move/upgrade Hagelin. I get that he's not scoring, but he's still extremely fast, fits the system, is one of our only defensively responsible forwards, and plays LW. As much as his production sucks, he's not a guy we can/should move imo. I'd move Sheary before Hagelin for a few reasons; mainly their respective values to other teams (Sheary is infinitely higher, I'd venture to guess), and because I think we can afford to move/replace Sheary more easily than Hagelin--as crazy as that may sound when looking at their stats.

Yes, that does sound pretty crazy

I wouldn't trade Sheary before Hagelin for a million reasons. It's not even a thought that crosses my mind, that would be a total non-starter.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Yes, that does sound pretty crazy

I wouldn't trade Sheary before Hagelin for a million reasons. It's not even a thought that crosses my mind, that would be a total non-starter.

I just don't think Hagelin's got any real value, certainly not more to other teams than he does here (speed, LW, defensive game, PKer). If we're moving pieces to fix the roster, I think we can afford to lose Sheary's production (which is all he brings) more easily than we can Hagelin's attributes.