Injury Report: Salary cap from injuries this season

[The90]

Anyone smarter than I know the effect of the salary cap based on the amount of injuries the leafs have had this season? Does that buy us any room?

Marner, Tavares, Johnsson, mikheyev, muzzin, Moore, Hyman and Dermott have all missed time. I’m just curious how that works.

thanks

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[VanW27]

Does that buy us any room?

No

 

[egd27]

Just noticed Muzzin isn't on LTIR on CF....seems odd

 

[The90]

Just noticed Muzzin isn't on LTIR on CF....seems odd

No

Even with ltir ? Werent tavares and marner both on that?

 

[MoreMogilny]

Just noticed Muzzin isn't on LTIR on CF....seems odd

He was originally week to week. Maybe they didn’t want him to get stuck on LTIR when he became ready to go?

 

[Tall Morty]

@mouser if you happen to know, you seem to be well-versed on the intricacies of the salary cap.

 

[MyBudJT]

From what I gather, since we are into LTIR space, there is no effective cap relief in the long run...

 

[Cor]

Anyone smarter than I know the effect of the salary cap based on the amount of injuries the leafs have had this season? Does that buy us any room?

Marner, Tavares, Johnsson, mikheyev, muzzin, Moore, Hyman and Dermott have all missed time. I’m just curious how that works.

thanks

No.

Since we are using LTIR, we don't accumulate cap space.

Everything stays status quo.

 

[The90]

No.

Since we are using LTIR, we don't accumulate cap space.

Everything stays status quo.

Gotcha

 

[OVO16]

We're not getting any cap-relief from the Injuries due to the fact that we were already over the Salary limit to start the season.

So regardless, our situation is still the same. Extremely tight.

 

[WestCoastLeafs]

You can replace the cap of the guy on LTIR *while he is on LTIR*. Once he's back it's gone.

 

[egd27]

He was originally week to week. Maybe they didn’t want him to get stuck on LTIR when he became ready to go?

I suppose......I guess that can put him on retroactively if necessary. With AJ on LTIR there is sufficient space to ice a 23 man roster so there is no real advantage to having Muzzin on it as well

 

[Nylanderthal]

I used to worry about these things when Burke Nonis and especially JFJ were in charge but seeing as our two AGMs both played roles in writing this version of the cap I just assume they’re doing what’s best for the team. there’s literally $0 when everyone is healthy this year, but I don’t see them dropping anyone (Mango or Ceci) to create space in season. It doesn’t mean anything to have 4.5m in space and no way to fill it.

 

[Martin Skoula]

I used to worry about these things when Burke Nonis and especially JFJ were in charge but seeing as our two AGMs both played roles in writing this version of the cap I just assume they’re doing what’s best for the team. there’s literally $0 when everyone is healthy this year, but I don’t see them dropping anyone (Mango or Ceci) to create space in season. It doesn’t mean anything to have 4.5m in space and no way to fill it.

The problem is we can't have Engvall up when everyone is healthy. AJ for a ~2ish million 3W + picks or depth D might make sense.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Yea unfortutnately Marner's agent kind of screwed us this year. Made us add the Clarkson contract so we could be as close to the cap as possible and gain space through the year if Marner held out until December.

So rather than signing early and seeing if we could move the last year of the Horton deal we had to add Clarkson.

With him signing right before camp it gave us no flexibility for this season.

Moving forward after this year we should be okay to gain space because of LTIR.

 

[Deebo]

The problem is we can't have Engvall up when everyone is healthy. AJ for a ~2ish million 3W + picks or depth D might make sense.

Mikheyev won't be heatlhy for a long time, so Engvall will be able to stay.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Toronto Maple Leafs Daily Cap Tracker - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Toronto Maple Leafs Daily Cap Tracker - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Clarkson making more than Frederik

 

[Canada4Gold]

You don't accumulate space when you're using LTIR all year so LTIR would only allow you to temporarily have cap space equal to the player contract that's injured. So right now we had to room to replace Johnsson's, Mikheyev's, and Moore's money. Maybe Muzzin's too if he's out long enough they decide to put him on LTIR. Earlier we had the same oppurtinities with Marner and maybe Tavares(not sure if he was ever on LTIR), Hyman and Dermott. When all are healthy(except Mikheyev who's likely gone for the year) we'll be down to a 21 man roster with no space.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Question answered. Lock it up!

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You can replace the cap of the guy on LTIR *while he is on LTIR*. Once he's back it's gone.

Knowing that is the way it is makes me wonder why Dubas hasn't acquired the LTIR salary of a guy that's not voming back and that way he can replace him on the roster with a deadline deal.

It's greasy but doable.

The Hawks did it with Kane during a cup run, they kept him on LTIR until the playoffs and bought at the deadline

 

[Merrrlin]

Nice to see some dead money coming off the books next season.

Only a couple years after this one with Phil's retention, as well.

 

[The Iceman]

Hard to believe Horton and Clarkson contracts still active. Those guys have been gone for years.

 

[Walshy7]

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Clarkson making more than Frederik

truly flabbergasting that 2 nhl teams decided to sign Horton and Clarkeson to those contracts. Even worse is one of those teams was Toronto

 

[glue]

You don't accumulate space when you're using LTIR all year so LTIR would only allow you to temporarily have cap space equal to the player contract that's injured. So right now we had to room to replace Johnsson's, Mikheyev's, and Moore's money. Maybe Muzzin's too if he's out long enough they decide to put him on LTIR. Earlier we had the same oppurtinities with Marner and maybe Tavares(not sure if he was ever on LTIR), Hyman and Dermott. When all are healthy(except Mikheyev who's likely gone for the year) we'll be down to a 21 man roster with no space.

Ok so basically we’re looking at a lineup like below assuming all our healthy at some point this year(even Mikheyev for playoffs)

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Kerfoot-JT-Nylander
AJ-Engvall-Kappy
Mikheyev-Spezza-Moore
X-GOAT

Reilly-Barrie
Muzzin-Holl
Dermott-Ceci

Andersen
Hutch

Would above work?