Saginaw Spirit 2018-19 Season Thread

[Kingpin794]

Wilde said he's coming to OHL.

We have his rights.

There isn't a realistic offer in my mind someone could put out there that would be better than having a known top pairing defenseman come into the line up for a couple years.

2 2nds and a 3rd is nowhere close to worth trading him IMO. Double that. Even then, that just currency to spend on getting someone just as good. Cut out the extra step and don't trade him.

There's no reason to trade him.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Wilde said he's coming to OHL.

We have his rights.

There isn't a realistic offer in my mind someone could put out there that would be better than having a known top pairing defenseman come into the line up for a couple years.

2 2nds and a 3rd is nowhere close to worth trading him IMO. Double that. Even then, that just currency to spend on getting someone just as good. Cut out the extra step and don't trade him.

There's no reason to trade him.

If the Jake Baskin report is correct, he won’t play for Saginaw. So better to get assets than nothing. He also said “it’s being taken care of and I’ll know pretty soon”. So I’d think that means on Aug 1 when the trade window opens, he’ll be moved

 

[Finster8]

Interesting. Still though, him not having the proper credits doesn't exactly scream "problem guy who will ruin your locker room".

Wonder what he will cost in a trade

3-2nds+ 3-3rds or 2-2nds + 3-3rds and a prospect if not we keep him. He was a top 15 talent most of the year and that costs assets. I hope we keep him and we know anything can happen. I am sure their would be great interest from a few teams.

 

[Generalsupdates]

3-2nds+ 3-3rds or 2-2nds + 3-3rds and a prospect if not we keep him. He was a top 15 talent most of the year and that costs assets. I hope we keep him and we know anything can happen. I am sure their would be great interest from a few teams.

If Will Cuylle got traded today (3rd overall pick), he'd likely go for 3 2nds+3 3rds. There's no way you're getting that for 2 years of a D-man who didn't even get drafted in the 1st round

I assume Wilde wouldn't come to SAG or else a trade wouldn't be happening and they'd keep him because he fits their window pretty nicely. So the "we'll just keep him then" option likely wouldn't work, unless Jake Baskin got 100% wrong information

 

[Finster8]

Let's see what happens you maybe right? Perfetti signed and was not suppose too. As far as his price tag that's up to the GM. He will not come cheap. More than a few teams will be interested Niagara, London etc.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Let's see what happens you maybe right? Perfetti signed and was not suppose too. As far as his price tag that's up to the GM. He will not come cheap. More than a few teams will be interested Niagara, London etc.

Yeah I'm just going off the Baskin tweet of Wilde saying "it'll be taken care of soon" and knowing that the trade freeze is lifted in 6 days

 

[Kingpin794]

Yeah I'm just going off the Baskin tweet of Wilde saying "it'll be taken care of soon" and knowing that the trade freeze is lifted in 6 days

People are bored. I'm not saying there won't be a trade but speculating the terms of a big trade sure is more interesting than just twiddling your thumbs in 90 degree heat for key board GM's. It's not smart to trade him. The assests won't equal what you'd get on the ice simply because a known good is worth a lot more than picks even if they're gonna get flipped.

 

[Generalsupdates]

People are bored. I'm not saying there won't be a trade but speculating the terms of a big trade sure is more interesting than just twiddling your thumbs in 90 degree heat for key board GM's. It's not smart to trade him. The assests won't equal what you'd get on the ice simply because a known good is worth a lot more than picks even if they're gonna get flipped.

Yeah, if they’re trading him it’s only because he wouldn’t have reported to Saginaw. Otherwise like you said, doesn’t make sense to move who would be your best D-man

 

[Kingpin794]

Yeah, if they’re trading him it’s only because he wouldn’t have reported to Saginaw. Otherwise like you said, doesn’t make sense to move who would be your best D-man

Even if he doesn't want to report to us, I still don't think about trading him since he's already made it known he's coming to the OHL. He mentioned the OHL specifically. He didn't mention USHL or another college as an option which means to me he views the OHL as the superior route of development for himself. We essentially have a monopoly on the product that the customer demands. I'm sure the Islanders wouldn't mind having couple of their prospects playing together on the same team in the OHL. Just keep working on him and try to sell him on what's happening here.

 

[OHL4Life]

Yeah, if they’re trading him it’s only because he wouldn’t have reported to Saginaw. Otherwise like you said, doesn’t make sense to move who would be your best D-man

Even if he doesn't want to report to us, I still don't think about trading him since he's already made it known he's coming to the OHL. He mentioned the OHL specifically. He didn't mention USHL or another college as an option which means to me he views the OHL as the superior route of development for himself. We essentially have a monopoly on the product that the customer demands. I'm sure the Islanders wouldn't mind having couple of their prospects playing together on the same team in the OHL. Just keep working on him and try to sell him on what's happening here.

its all based on second hand information outside of saginaw, but im pretty sure hes playing in saginaw next year.

 

[Finster8]

Even if he doesn't want to report to us, I still don't think about trading him since he's already made it known he's coming to the OHL. He mentioned the OHL specifically. He didn't mention USHL or another college as an option which means to me he views the OHL as the superior route of development for himself. We essentially have a monopoly on the product that the customer demands. I'm sure the Islanders wouldn't mind having couple of their prospects playing together on the same team in the OHL. Just keep working on him and try to sell him on what's happening here.

Well said, it was good enough to attract Perfetti to sign. Jenkins the year before. The team is ready to prove how much they have improved. We need Prosvetov to have a good year if Wilde is traded then an OA defenseman Gleason would fit the bill.

 

[Generalsupdates]

its all based on second hand information outside of saginaw, but im pretty sure hes playing in saginaw next year.

with the way you worded that, even if he gets traded you can be like “see, I told you he’d play in Saginaw!” when his team has a road game in Saginaw. Smart

 

[OHL4Life]

with the way you worded that, even if he gets traded you can be like “see, I told you he’d play in Saginaw!” when his team has a road game in Saginaw. Smart

not quite

im trying to say that i dont have anyone from saginaw telling me anything. i have a few friends in the league, they all say that wilde is signed in saginaw. thats it, thats all.

hows that lol?

 

[Generalsupdates]

not quite

im trying to say that i dont have anyone from saginaw telling me anything. i have a few friends in the league, they all say that wilde is signed in saginaw. thats it, thats all.

hows that lol?

I know, I made a joke but you didn’t get it.

It’s becoming a real head to head between your “league sources” and Jake Baskin’s lol

 

[Finster8]

I know, I made a joke but you didn’t get it.

It’s becoming a real head to head between your “league sources” and Jake Baskin’s lol

OHL4Life has different sources and l hope he is right. Looking at NYI thread Wilde was playing well at camp and looked good. We need that talent in Saginaw it would be a great pairing of Middleton and Wilde. Saves us a bundle of picks wich can be used to get that top forward and an OA to boost the offense. Plenty of picks and prospects to sweeten the deals.

 

[OHL4Life]

I know, I made a joke but you didn’t get it.

It’s becoming a real head to head between your “league sources” and Jake Baskin’s lol

no i got it

i dont claim to have any inside info or claim to be an insider, i know a few people in the league, one fairly high up the ladder with a team. they all think hes going to saginaw, thats what im adding.

im not really worried about what others say or if im 'right', im just offering whatever info i can. if people find value in that, awesome, if not, oh well. people can believe whoever jake baskin is if they like, all good, i just gave whatever info i had, how right it is im not sure, its speculation.

 

[Generalsupdates]

OHL4Life has different sources and l hope he is right. Looking at NYI thread Wilde was playing well at camp and looked good. We need that talent in Saginaw it would be a great pairing of Middleton and Wilde. Saves us a bundle of picks wich can be used to get that top forward and an OA to boost the offense. Plenty of picks and prospects to sweeten the deals.

Yeah if you guys got Wilde that would certainly help a lot for both this year and next year

 

[SaginawFan]

Bode Wilde will be in a Saginaw jersey for the beginning of the year. But feom last years regulars, Busdeker, Grondin and Gilmour won't be. Stay tuned folks!

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Bode Wilde will be in a Saginaw jersey for the beginning of the year. But feom last years regulars, Busdeker, Grondin and Gilmour won't be. Stay tuned folks!

You know this for sure, or just speculation?

 

[SaginawFan]

Nothing is for sure, but from a very reliable source that is associated with the team.

 

[Petes]

Nothing is for sure, but from a very reliable source that is associated with the team.

Where are they headed.... or multiple deals?

 

[SaginawFan]

I've heard the following teams, but have not heard of any return players

Busdeker - was the 67's but as of lately the Fronts

Gilmour - Petes and (Oshawa interested I've heard lately)

Grondin - Sudbury

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Where are they headed.... or multiple deals?

Not that I know anything, but I doubt any team would want or can afford to pay for all three in one deal. Saginaw probably gets the best deal by including them separately, although there could be a few others that could end up available and included in a deal, like Webb or Hill.

 

[Petes]

I've heard the following teams, but have not heard of any return players

Busdeker - was the 67's but as of lately the Fronts

Gilmour - Petes and (Oshawa interested I've heard lately)

Grondin - Sudbury

I could see a Gilmour for Gallant swap happening.

 

[sirius67fan]

I've heard the following teams, but have not heard of any return players

Busdeker - was the 67's but as of lately the Fronts

Gilmour - Petes and (Oshawa interested I've heard lately)

Grondin - Sudbury

Busdeker's name keeps coming up for Ottawa. I just don't see a fit. We're loaded on right wing unless they make another trade with their current crew?