Soo fans are hypersensitive.... Yet you guys are crying over hotdogging... Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Soo fans are hypersensitive.... Yet you guys are crying over hotdogging... Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
So is it not hotdoffing when saggy scores 10 or?
I'll chime in. What has had Spirit fans (and players from last year) aggravated this year comes from last year's playoffs game 2 in the Soo, when already up 6-0 on Saginaw, Howdeshell does a lacrosse goal to score in the third period. Shortly after, Hayton scores a meaningless 8th goal with a between the legs highlight goal. Then the Soo players celebrated by skating by the bench flashing the "too sweet" hand signs (I rechecked the video highlight https://deadspin.com/minor-league-hockey-team-stunts-on-blowout-victims-with-1824082750 ). THAT is hotdogging and becomes material you hang in the locker room to get the team ready for the next time (which was this year).
In game 2 (10-1 score) this year, the Spirit players ceased going by the bench to tap gloves (celebration train) at least for the two goals in the third period and possibly earlier. I don't remember exactly when they started just skating back to center ice, it just seemed odd.
I do agree with you. Saginaw is not squeaky clean by any means. My argument was solely that the 10-1 game was not "hotdoffing" as Dale put it. I put my opinion of an example of hot dogging. It is all in the character of the players, not the score.both teams did the exact same thing, that’s the point. one team isn’t classless and one team isn’t innocent. it all equals out and anyone trying to claim that their team is squeaky clean has the most rose coloured glasses available
Soo are good winners!
..is there a sarcasm button?ok. good for them. go tell them that. I'm sure they'll enjoy that pat on the back.
Don Cherry has an agenda, always has. I disagreed with his assessment then, and I still do now. Let's break it down based on what Cherry showed in the clip.
1) Jack Kopacka scored a goal to go up 5-0 then said something to the defenseman. This happens all the time. Is this hot dogging? Then half the league are hot dogs.
2) Keeghan Howdeshell scores a "lacrosse style" goal to go up 7-0. Is this hot dogging? This is a skill play. Are we not allowing skill plays now?
3) Barrett Hayton scores a "between the legs" goal to go up 8-0. Is this hot dogging? These kinds of goals are being scored all the time in the NHL and nobody thinks twice. Of course junior players are going to work on these skills too. They are expected to. Just another skill play IMO.
4) Keep in mind these 3 kids were not first line players last season. Was Barrett Hayton's "too sweet" celebration after the 8th goal hot dogging? He did it only briefly, and it was spontaneous and directed towards his bench in celebration, not the other team.
If Saginaw wanted to play the pity card, and use it for inspiration this series, power to them. But in my opinion, Prosvetov's actions this season, and particulary in game 6 of this series, were much worse. They were pre-planned, deliberate, directed to the Soo Fans, and done in a spiteful manner.
I don't care about running up the score. It's the playoffs, everyone has been burned by thinking their lead is safe when it wasn't. I was fine with 8-0 last year, and likewise I was fine with 10-1 this year. I won't lose sleep over Prosvetov's actions, but they certainly deserve being called out. Which is what we have done.
I still hope Saginaw goes the distance. One bad apple doesn't spoil the bushel if it's caught early. The rest of the team are well respected. I sincerely hope they can pull Prosvetov back in line. He's too good a goalie to get this kind of reputation.
Good luck in the next round.
Truth be told - it’s serving me well in getting me through most of my work day!!I dont think anyone cares. But we are bored and have nothing better to talk about anymore.
How about that Tiger!
I think anyone would pick the team that's only won 1 out of the last 4, versus the team that's won 4 straight.Congrats on reaching conf finals.
Loaded ?
Do Saginaw fans wanna see Guelph or London next round and why
Congrats on reaching conf finals.
Loaded ?
Do Saginaw fans wanna see Guelph or London next round and why
Really? Hockey Skill? Lets say he would have missed the "Lacrosse" style goal in a close game. WTF do you think his coach would have said then. Between the legs goal happens all the time. Really? How many times has this happened? Were they close games or somebody showing off? Don't be a douche. They were hotdogging and so was our goalie. Just admit what it was. GEEZDon Cherry has an agenda, always has. I disagreed with his assessment then, and I still do now. Let's break it down based on what Cherry showed in the clip.
1) Jack Kopacka scored a goal to go up 5-0 then said something to the defenseman. This happens all the time. Is this hot dogging? Then half the league are hot dogs.
2) Keeghan Howdeshell scores a "lacrosse style" goal to go up 7-0. Is this hot dogging? This is a skill play. Are we not allowing skill plays now?
3) Barrett Hayton scores a "between the legs" goal to go up 8-0. Is this hot dogging? These kinds of goals are being scored all the time in the NHL and nobody thinks twice. Of course junior players are going to work on these skills too. They are expected to. Just another skill play IMO.
4) Keep in mind these 3 kids were not first line players last season. Was Barrett Hayton's "too sweet" celebration after the 8th goal hot dogging? He did it only briefly, and it was spontaneous and directed towards his bench in celebration, not the other team.
If Saginaw wanted to play the pity card, and use it for inspiration this series, power to them. But in my opinion, Prosvetov's actions this season, and particulary in game 6 of this series, were much worse. They were pre-planned, deliberate, directed to the Soo Fans, and done in a spiteful manner.
I don't care about running up the score. It's the playoffs, everyone has been burned by thinking their lead is safe when it wasn't. I was fine with 8-0 last year, and likewise I was fine with 10-1 this year. I won't lose sleep over Prosvetov's actions, but they certainly deserve being called out. Which is what we have done.
I still hope Saginaw goes the distance. One bad apple doesn't spoil the bushel if it's caught early. The rest of the team are well respected. I sincerely hope they can pull Prosvetov back in line. He's too good a goalie to get this kind of reputation.
Good luck in the next round.
Because I am bored and have nothing better to do
Wow, flashing too sweet to your bench for a second is the celebration to top all celebrations? Remind me not to book it to Saginaw to see you guys beat Ottawa in 6. I would be disappointed in the post game for sure.then to top it off celebrating like you scored the cup clinching goal after