Hockey Fights: Sabres Vs. Blues

Yatzhee

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Cheap shot by Cole on Ennis. Good for Zadarov, standing up for his team mates, the kid is learning quickly, going to be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

What was Steen thinking? Going after Ennis? Really? Couldn't find someone his own weight and size?

The Sabres have beef on the way, the Blues had best be careful, as Buffalo's line up begins to take shape over the next 3 to 4 seasons with all these beefy kids, the Blues could find themselves over powered by the sheer size of the Sabres in the future.
 

HP00

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"Not sure if Zadorov is known for this, I know he's strong and big but Ian Cole's big and strong"

Excellent analysis
 

rumrokh

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Cheap shot by Cole on Ennis. Good for Zadarov, standing up for his team mates, the kid is learning quickly, going to be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

What was Steen thinking? Going after Ennis? Really? Couldn't find someone his own weight and size?

The Sabres have beef on the way, the Blues had best be careful, as Buffalo's line up begins to take shape over the next 3 to 4 seasons with all these beefy kids, the Blues could find themselves over powered by the sheer size of the Sabres in the future.

Cole shoved Ennis in the chest to keep him from going to the net for a rebound. That's neither a penalty, nor a cheap shot.

The reason Steen goes after Ennis is because Ennis goes flying in with his hands and stick up in Cole's face. If Ennis can't take punches to the face, he shouldn't do things like that. Fighting has nothing to do with picking a guy your own size and squaring off in some sanctioned duel, it's making a player who takes liberties pay a price.

And then they went after Steen between whistles and headhunted him because he won a fight against a guy who acted like a twerp. And they speared Tarasenko. Meathead posturing by a team that's frustrated by how ineffective they are in every other aspect of the game.
I'm all for tough hockey. Defensemen should put their arms and sticks up in the faces of guys who try to run them, goalies should start slashing when they get bumped, etc. But all Buffalo showed was straight up loser behavior.
 

WildcatMapleLeafs28

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Cheap shot by Cole on Ennis. Good for Zadarov, standing up for his team mates, the kid is learning quickly, going to be a force to be reckoned with in the future.

What was Steen thinking? Going after Ennis? Really? Couldn't find someone his own weight and size?

The Sabres have beef on the way, the Blues had best be careful, as Buffalo's line up begins to take shape over the next 3 to 4 seasons with all these beefy kids, the Blues could find themselves over powered by the sheer size of the Sabres in the future.

Don't see how that was a cheapshot...
 

Yatzhee

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Cole shoved Ennis in the chest to keep him from going to the net for a rebound. That's neither a penalty, nor a cheap shot.

The reason Steen goes after Ennis is because Ennis goes flying in with his hands and stick up in Cole's face. If Ennis can't take punches to the face, he shouldn't do things like that. Fighting has nothing to do with picking a guy your own size and squaring off in some sanctioned duel, it's making a player who takes liberties pay a price.

And then they went after Steen between whistles and headhunted him because he won a fight against a guy who acted like a twerp. And they speared Tarasenko. Meathead posturing by a team that's frustrated by how ineffective they are in every other aspect of the game.
I'm all for tough hockey. Defensemen should put their arms and sticks up in the faces of guys who try to run them, goalies should start slashing when they get bumped, etc. But all Buffalo showed was straight up loser behavior.

While I do not defend the actions of Weber or Del in the following events, both were bush league I agree, they have nothing to do with the initial set of circumstances. Cole cross checked Ennis in to the boards, "after the whistle" mind you, there was no rebound, watch the vidoe. That is an ejection offense, no matter how you slice it.

The Sabres responded to both Cole and Steen's goonery tactics, and your calling the Sabres out? Like I said, no defense for Weber or Del's actions later in the game but the Blues clearly were the goons with Cole's late, after the whistle cross check in to the boards on Ennis and Steen's subsequent behavior.
 

zbubble

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Don't see how that was a cheapshot...

Ennis' takes the shot before he even gets to the face-off dot. The hit comes after the whistle and after he passes the goal line. That's over 20 feet away from when the puck left his stick. It's a late hit. There was no need for it, and that's the kind of play that's going to paralyze someone someday.

If you're a Maple Leafs fan, then let me put it in terms you can understand. If Phil Kessel takes that shot before he gets to the face-off dot like Ennis, and then JOHN SCOTT plows him into the boards after he passes the goal line, wouldn't all of Canada go completely bonkers?
 
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zbubble

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The reason Steen goes after Ennis is because Ennis goes flying in with his hands and stick up in Cole's face.

That's a lame excuse. There were 5 Sabres in that scrum going after Cole. Steen didn't grab any of the bigger players, like Zadorov who was actually throwing punches. At the 19-20 second mark you can actually see Steen alter his path from going towards the center of the group, around to the left so he could engage the smallest guy of the bunch.

But you're right about "making a player who takes liberties pay a price." That's what Cole did, that's what Steen did, so that's why the Sabres went after them.
 

rumrokh

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While I do not defend the actions of Weber or Del in the following events, both were bush league I agree, they have nothing to do with the initial set of circumstances. Cole cross checked Ennis in to the boards, "after the whistle" mind you, there was no rebound, watch the vidoe. That is an ejection offense, no matter how you slice it.

The Sabres responded to both Cole and Steen's goonery tactics, and your calling the Sabres out? Like I said, no defense for Weber or Del's actions later in the game but the Blues clearly were the goons with Cole's late, after the whistle cross check in to the boards on Ennis and Steen's subsequent behavior.

The shove occurs at the exact same time as the whistle, occurred far from the boards, and was not even towards the boards.

That's a lame excuse. There were 5 Sabres in that scrum going after Cole. Steen didn't grab any of the bigger players, like Zadorov who was actually throwing punches. At the 19-20 second mark you can actually see Steen alter his path from going towards the center of the group, around to the left so he could engage the smallest guy of the bunch.

But you're right about "making a player who takes liberties pay a price." That's what Cole did, that's what Steen did, so that's why the Sabres went after them.

The other guys were shoving and weren't really even engaged with Cole at the time. Ennis is the guy who took a fast run and had his stick up. The idea about picking a smaller guy is straight up hilarious. Smaller hockey players don't get any kind of free pass. There is no special honor in only fighting guys who are exactly your size or bigger. You charge and throw your fists and stick up in a player's face after a simple, non-cheap shove to the chest, you're taking liberties and you'll get yours, no matter how small you are.
 

cardiffgiant

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Coles hit was late and the result was an awkward tumble into the boards. The response was appropriate. Steen absolutely went to town on a midget. No way around it, he's not going to look like a hero for going all out in that kind of mismatch.

Zadorov did OK against Cole. It's nice to see him get involved and prove that "strong and big" is better than "big and strong". The Sabres definitely let Steen stay under their skin way longer than they needed to, and Deslauries spear was just stupid. Selfish, dirty, and unnecessary. We are perfectly capable of losing games without resorting spearing people in the boys.
 

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