Rumor: Sabres trying to trade Ristolainen - Part II

[truthbluth]

Bob Stauffer, who is about 50/50 in predicting Oilers’ moves, apparently mentioned the Risto as a target of the Oil yesterday. I have been looking at everything, but I cannot for the life of me, come up with a single reasonable deal involving Risto to the Oilers. Nothing makes sense. Between cap issues, and similar team timelines, and similar team weaknesses, there’s just no deal to be made here. The three proposals here on the trade board are all pretty bad for one or both teams.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

I’d be surprised if a Ristolainen to Edmonton trade happened, too.

As you said the 2 teams don’t appear to be good trade partners.

It seems like Wdmonton could really only offer more of a futures package and it has been said more than once that Buffalo is not looking for futures or picks in a Ristolainen trade.

Buffalo would want a #2C or a good, young, established top 6 RW.

Neither are a position of strength in the oilers organization (Neal appears to be near the top of their RW depth chart). They need top 6 forwards as badly as the Sabres do.



Plus, Ken Holland isn’t exactly someone I think of when I think of blockbuster trades...
History of hockey trades by general manager Ken Holland - NHL Trade Tracker

I can’t see him being willing (or able) to pay the price Buffalo is asking.


I just don’t see a Risto to Edmonton trade happening. Unless they’re willing to do more of a 1 for 1 hockey trade (which I don’t see either, due to it being a poor match)

 

[Aladyyn]

Bob Stauffer, who is about 50/50 in predicting Oilers’ moves, apparently mentioned the Risto as a target of the Oil yesterday. I have been looking at everything, but I cannot for the life of me, come up with a single reasonable deal involving Risto to the Oilers. Nothing makes sense. Between cap issues, and similar team timelines, and similar team weaknesses, there’s just no deal to be made here. The three proposals here on the trade board are all pretty bad for one or both teams.

Risto for RNH

2 players valued too highly be their team's fans, both sides are going to hate it equally.

 

[Selanne00008]

Bob Stauffer, who is about 50/50 in predicting Oilers’ moves, apparently mentioned the Risto as a target of the Oil yesterday. I have been looking at everything, but I cannot for the life of me, come up with a single reasonable deal involving Risto to the Oilers. Nothing makes sense. Between cap issues, and similar team timelines, and similar team weaknesses, there’s just no deal to be made here. The three proposals here on the trade board are all pretty bad for one or both teams.

Anything is possible. If these are professional grade GMs then Botts can accept picks/prospects for Risto and then add a 3rd team right after that he has lined up that IS a good trade partner that is rebuilding.. Now, who is that third team??

 

[Sabreality]

Risto for RNH

2 players valued too highly be their team's fans, both sides are going to hate it equally.

I have a feeling this is it too if it happens, although I wouldnt 'hate it' as much as some I suppose. Definitely some over/under valuing by both fanbases with each player. Risto gives EDM that 2RD behind Larsson getting easier minutes and 1PP time, perhaps they want Drai to drive his own line now at 2C and go from there. I know EDM fans say hell no, but I can see it. RNH can be the bridge at 2C for 2 years before Mitts hopefully takes it for BUF. It does make some sense whether this board believes it or not. (trades happen all the time this board didnt approve of prior to it happening)

 

[MagnumForce2]

Risto for RNH

2 players valued too highly be their team's fans, both sides are going to hate it equally.

This has been my opinion all along. I feel if Risto is traded, it will be to Edmonton for RNH or to Winnipeg for Ehlers. Other pieces may be involved but those would be the principles. RNH makes the most sense to me though.

 

[tbcwpg]

This has been my opinion all along. I feel if Risto is traded, it will be to Edmonton for RNH or to Winnipeg for Ehlers. Other pieces may be involved but those would be the principles. RNH makes the most sense to me though.

I think Buffalo fans would be a lot happier with those trades than Jets or Oilers fans.

 

[sufferer]

Just trade him for Dvorak and be f***ing done with it already.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Risto for RNH

2 players valued too highly be their team's fans, both sides are going to hate it equally.

I really want to see this trade go through. Edmonton would have 2 non-AHL caliber forwards on the team.

 

[booyakasha]

No chance Edmonton trades RNH for Risto

 

[truthbluth]

Risto for RNH

2 players valued too highly be their team's fans, both sides are going to hate it equally.

I just don’t see it. Edmonton’s center depth is somehow worse than ours.

But I think the value is a lot closer than Edmonton fans think.

 

[booyakasha]

I just don’t see it. Edmonton’s center depth is somehow worse than ours.

But I think the value is a lot closer than Edmonton fans think.

Chiarelli is not the GM in Edmonton anymore.

 

[truthbluth]

Chiarelli is not the GM in Edmonton anymore.

Cute. But irrelevant. RNH and Risto are near equal value.

 

[booyakasha]

Cute. But irrelevant. RNH and Risto are near equal value.

not really.

Chia might have thought that trade was fair.

 

[truthbluth]

not really.

Chia might have thought that trade was fair.

Chia would think Draisaitl for Risto is fair. Stop overrating Hopkins and underrating Risto. RNH is just as much of a statistical shit show, despite having just as much obvious talent.

 

[booyakasha]

Chia would think Draisaitl for Risto is fair. Stop overrating Hopkins and underrating Risto. RNH is just as much of a statistical **** show, despite having just as much obvious talent.

I'm not over rating hopkins though

and your GM was too dumb to dupe Chia, remember turning down Risto for Hall?

 

[kilowatt]

How about Ristolainen for Toffoli and Kale Clague? I think he would be a great guy on the second pair behind Doughty for the Kings moving forward, and the Kings have a lot of left-handed defensive prospects (Bjornfot, Anderson, Clague, Brickley) but not much on the right side (Durzi and...).

 

[Uberpecker]

How about Ristolainen for Toffoli and Kale Clague? I think he would be a great guy on the second pair behind Doughty for the Kings moving forward, and the Kings have a lot of left-handed defensive prospects (Bjornfot, Anderson, Clague, Brickley) but not much on the right side (Durzi and...).

Toffoli is nowhere near enough as the main piece for Risto. Toffoli for McCabe works, though.

 

[GameMisconduct]

I'm not over rating hopkins though

and your GM was too dumb to dupe Chia, remember turning down Risto for Hall?

Different GM and tbf what I believe was reported was that EDM had targeted a range of younger defensemen across the league and was turned down by everyone until NJD.

 

[booyakasha]

Different GM and tbf what I believe was reported was that EDM had targeted a range of younger defensemen across the league and was turned down by everyone until NJD.

What blows me away is that Chia was so stupid, that he thought Hall for Risto was a good trade, ..
what's even more mind blowing, is Buffalo was even dumber to turn it down.
no wonder their fans think they can get RNH for him 1 for 1

 

[Hunter368]

I think Buffalo fans would be a lot happier with those trades than Jets or Oilers fans.

Literally that would go down in Jets history as the worse/least popular trade in Jets 1.0 & 2.0 history........actually the Selanne trade was the worse trade, Ehlers for Ristolainen would be the 2nd worse in the history of the team. I could see fans chanting for Chevy to be fired at games, that how bad that trade would be viewed.

 

[Snowman]

This has been my opinion all along. I feel if Risto is traded, it will be to Edmonton for RNH or to Winnipeg for Ehlers. Other pieces may be involved but those would be the principles. RNH makes the most sense to me though.

Zero interest in Winnipeg for that trade.

 

[MagnumForce2]

I think Buffalo fans would be a lot happier with those trades than Jets or Oilers fans.

After the O’Reilly Trade, we deserve it.

 

[tbcwpg]

After the O’Reilly Trade, we deserve it.

After the Trouba trade I'm not sure Jets fans deserve the other end

 

[Selanne00008]

After the Trouba trade I'm not sure Jets fans deserve the other end

well, one of us is gonna have to bite the bullet again haha