Speculation: Sabres moving on from Lehner

[UnleashRasmus]

How about the Blues trade Jake Allen to Buffalo , and you can answer that question.

If the price is reasonable, I'd take a look at Jake Allen. He's better than Lehner, which isn't saying much.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

Anderson had larger sample size as #1 and a long playoff run under his belt

Just 20 games and he didn't have a Vezina winner to compete with.

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Who does buffalo have to replace him though? It's not like ufa options are good, the trade market has darling and (super dark horse) maybe an ageing rinne, lukkonen isn't close to ready. If buffalo rolls into the season with kasdorf and Johnson it's going to be a super long season... again.

 

[The Red Helmet]

Grubauer for Buffalo's 2nd in 2018 (#32) and 2nd in 2019. Just about the same value that Frederick Andersen got. Grubauer is the same age that Andersen was when Leafs traded for him but his stats are better than what Andersen's were at the time of the trade.

I keep seeing this proposal and it makes me want to throw up. Grubauer stats are nice but he has played 101 games in 6 seasons. He has some potential but is still unproven and has similar value to what Lehner had before Buffalo traded for him. We trade a late first for Lehner and it plays out terribly, then as Lehner is walking out the door, we trade the first pick in the second round for a guy that had similar value to what Lehner had before we traded for him? No thank you. I would much, much rather roll with Ullmark and a vet through free agency, or a trade where we aren't giving up the first pick in the second round in a good draft.

 

[Digable5]

Sweet geez, we won a trade???

Yep. Seems all you need is for your GM to be the Uncle and mentor to the other team's GM. Simple really.

 

[Fjordy]

Who does buffalo have to replace him though? It's not like ufa options are good, the trade market has darling and (super dark horse) maybe an ageing rinne, lukkonen isn't close to ready. If buffalo rolls into the season with kasdorf and Johnson it's going to be a super long season... again.

One of the goaltenders will be Ullmark, this has already been said, but who will be the second is still unclear. Johnson and Kasdorf will definitely not be in Buffalo.

 

[Royal Thunder]

Who does buffalo have to replace him though? It's not like ufa options are good, the trade market has darling and (super dark horse) maybe an ageing rinne, lukkonen isn't close to ready. If buffalo rolls into the season with kasdorf and Johnson it's going to be a super long season... again.

Ullmark will be graduating to the NHL this year, it's going to be him and someone else from the outside, my bet is on a veteran like Bernier or Hutton or Ward who can push for starts.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Who does buffalo have to replace him though? It's not like ufa options are good, the trade market has darling and (super dark horse) maybe an ageing rinne, lukkonen isn't close to ready. If buffalo rolls into the season with kasdorf and Johnson it's going to be a super long season... again.

Kasdorf? I don't even think hes on the team anymore.

Ullmark is being primed to be the next goalie, I honestly see top 10 potential in him and I've been saying this for the last 3 years.

 

[BonMorrison]

 

[paulmm3]

I'm a Buffalo fan living in StL and I've seen a lot of both Lehner and Jake Allen. In no way would I trade Lehner for Jake Allen. Lehner is better. Not saying Lehner is good or that I want him to play goal for us much longer, all I'm saying is that he's better than Jake Allen.

 

[BiPolar Caps]

I keep seeing this proposal and it makes me want to throw up. Grubauer stats are nice but he has played 101 games in 6 seasons. He has some potential but is still unproven and has similar value to what Lehner had before Buffalo traded for him. We trade a late first for Lehner and it plays out terribly, then as Lehner is walking out the door, we trade the first pick in the second round for a guy that had similar value to what Lehner had before we traded for him? No thank you. I would much, much rather roll with Ullmark and a vet through free agency, or a trade where we aren't giving up the first pick in the second round in a good draft.

I hope you're joking about the comparison of Lehner and Grubauer. No way they have similar value and its obvious that you have not done due diligence in comparing their stats. Grubauer is a much better goalie than Lehner. Lehner in the season before being traded to Buffalo played in 25 games with Ottawa with a gaa of 3.02, while Grubauer just finished a season where he played in 35 games with a 2.35 gaa. No comparison and no similar value.

 

[john716]

Curious what issue Buffalo fans have with Lehner personally?

Obviously his one-ice angry outbursts are well documented, and his play has disappointed plenty...but is there off ice stuff that has gone on as well? Is this a case of a player simply leaving on not great terms and fans taking shots at him on the way out (no offense)?

We love his outburst and his aggressive nature. We don’t love his ability to stop easy goals from going in the net. And his shootout record is ridiculous to say the least

 

[Fjordy]

Is Allen really worse than Lehner? I thought he was a not bad goaltender.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Want him as the Stars back up. Head case, but tons of skill.

 

[The Red Helmet]

This makes me happy. The pick used to get Lehner was the NYI pick via the Vanek trade (to which Buffalo fans (not all of them but a lot) acted very classlessly and I'll leave it there).

Nice to see they got nothing from Vanek in the long run.

Lol, that is actually a pretty funny take. I'm not being sarcastic, I actually appreciate your reasoning and it made me laugh.

 

[Devilsrock17]

How much you wanna get the flyers get Lehner lol they are allergic to bad goalies

 

[Riseonfire]

Lol, that is actually a pretty funny take. I'm not being sarcastic, I actually appreciate your reasoning and it made me laugh.

hahah just trying to be honest!

 

[topshelf15]

Brian Murray was right about him all along,he was moved because of his unwillingness to develop in the ahl and build up his strength to handle the load as a number 1 goalie..He whined his way out after a short playoff run that won him the ahl championship...Now we see he is often injuried,and cant ever seem to play a full season,the talent was there...Unfortunately so was the hardheadness

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Sweet geez, we won a trade???

You won the trade from the moment it happened..

 

[haseoke39]

Curious what issue Buffalo fans have with Lehner personally?

Obviously his one-ice angry outbursts are well documented, and his play has disappointed plenty...but is there off ice stuff that has gone on as well? Is this a case of a player simply leaving on not great terms and fans taking shots at him on the way out (no offense)?

Threw his teammates under the bus to the press. Painted Go Trump or something on his mask at one point. Generally hot headed.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Good now get a real goalie

 

[SundherDome]

That is disappointing

 

[justafan22]

He's getting a backup job somewhere next year right?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

How much you wanna get the flyers get Lehner lol they are allergic to bad goalies

Do you mean addicted to bad goalies?

Because the Flyers show no signs of allergy when it comes to terrible goalies as those type of goalies seem to always find a way to Philly starting job

 

[Stuzchuk]

Sweet geez, we won a trade???

well... it wasnt GMPD, it was Murray... god damn I miss GMBM