Friedman: Sabres looking to move Scandella

[Weltschmerz]

Huh? Wouldn’t you then want someone who IS exempt from the expansion draft. That way they wouldn’t be able to be selected, thereby making our protection process slightly easier.

Do you expect to get a prospect that good for Scandella that it really matters?
I don't get all this expansion draft talk, you protect your best 10 guys and then you lose someone good anyway. If you don't your depht is probably not good.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Looking for an elite or at least in the vicinity of elite pker. Team comes back from Europe and plays a game every other night for the next month. I doubt anyone in a position of power is eagerly looking to move players prior to that unless it’s for cost controlled upgrades.

Sabres are definitely looking to move D. They have a brutal schedule coming so they’re probably looking to wait until January to start losing defensemen. Scandella has been playing his best hockey since coming to Buffalo and they really aren’t in a position to start throwing out pay raises when they have cheap talent coming up. That’s probably why Scandella talk is happening.

 

[204hockey]

3rd line depth would be ideal.

perrault for scandella swap ?

 

[dkollidas]

Do you expect to get a prospect that good for Scandella that it really matters?
I don't get all this expansion draft talk, you protect your best 10 guys and then you lose someone good anyway. If you don't your depht is probably not good.

I get that. At the same time I’d like to get as many of the cheap, exempt guys as I can. Buffalo’s forwards prospects aren’t very deep, so that is why I bring that up as well.

 

[HabsTown]

Pass, Hudon is an easy "no", considering he could have been claimed on waivers for free.

Well, it was more about switching contracts to not add one. Basically Scandella for a 3rd.

 

[Djp]

Scandella at 50% and Vesey equals $4.275M out and Smith coming in would be $4.25M, the money in and out would be pretty much equal.

Yes but buffalo still keeps $2M against their cap. They don’t have the cap space to do thst. What do you not understand here.

 

[PredsHead]

Yes but buffalo still keeps $2M against their cap. They don’t have the cap space to do thst. What do you not understand here.

They are currently paying $6.275M for Scandella ($4M) and Vesey ($2.275M), they would be paying $6.25M for half of Scandella ($2M) and Craig Smith ($4.25M). They would save $25k against the cap.

 

[MMC]

Another goal for Scandeezy today, way to bring up that trade value

 

[is the answer jesus]

perrault for scandella swap ?

That trade actually adds salary to Buffalo and not just for this season either. Makes zero sense.

 

[204hockey]

That trade actually adds salary to Buffalo and not just for this season either. Makes zero sense.

hes solid depth. and we have no room if buff comes back otherwise. guess it doesnt work

 

[Leonardo87]

Another goal for Scandeezy today, way to bring up that trade value

I was at the game last night, though he looked fine, compared to a Sabres D collapse. Why did he only play 8 mins? Can a Sabre fan gives more insight? Thanks !

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Ceci to somebody, Scandella to Toronto, piece Buffalo wants from team for Ceci?

Would give the Leafs the chance to see if Dermott can stick with Rielly on the his off-side.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I was at the game last night, though he looked fine, compared to a Sabres D collapse. Why did he only play 8 mins? Can a Sabre fan gives more insight? Thanks !

injured

 

[Leonardo87]

injured

Ahhh ok thanks, yeah did not see him later in the game, makes sense.

 

[Djp]

They are currently paying $6.275M for Scandella ($4M) and Vesey ($2.275M), they would be paying $6.25M for half of Scandella ($2M) and Craig Smith ($4.25M). They would save $25k against the cap.

The other piece is having cap space for deadline trade.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Ceci to somebody, Scandella to Toronto, piece Buffalo wants from team for Ceci?

Would give the Leafs the chance to see if Dermott can stick with Rielly on the his off-side.

Kapanen for Scandy

 

[MMC]

Well, now he's hurt.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

The injury is prime example of why no ones in a rush to trade D.

However, even Gilmore looked decent. Buyer beware, Buffalo might just run a D friendly system because right now there looks to be about 9 NHL caliber D in the system.

 

[Price4Prez]

we can do Lehkonen for Scandella. Lehkonen is redundant to us and whoever said Scandella isnt an upgrade on our LHD is out to lunch haha. Most days, i dont even feel Mete is an NHL dman. Kulak has had a poor start to the year and Chariot is still trying to get used to the system. Reilly is a 6/7. Sooo ya. Sign me up to trade a winger we dont need, that doesnt help us for a dman that might.

 

[MackAttack26]

They are currently paying $6.275M for Scandella ($4M) and Vesey ($2.275M), they would be paying $6.25M for half of Scandella ($2M) and Craig Smith ($4.25M). They would save $25k against the cap.

Do you think Smith is just off to a slow start to the season or is he starting to trend down in his career?

If he still has close to 20 goal ability this would be a type of deal I would look at. Maybe add a pick since it is a 2 for 1.

But we need an upgrade in our middle-6 RW over Sobotka who is currently playing with Skinner and Johansson. Smith may not be the best but he is definitely an upgrade.

 

[Armourboy]

Do you think Smith is just off to a slow start to the season or is he starting to trend down in his career?

If he still has close to 20 goal ability this would be a type of deal I would look at. Maybe add a pick since it is a 2 for 1.

But we need an upgrade in our middle-6 RW over Sobotka who is currently playing with Skinner and Johansson. Smith may not be the best but he is definitely an upgrade.

I have no desire to trade Smith, but he's been playing well, just been snake bit. Finally got his first goal the other night so wouldn't shock me too see him roll off another 3 or 4 rather quick. He's always been streaky.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Do you think Smith is just off to a slow start to the season or is he starting to trend down in his career?

If he still has close to 20 goal ability this would be a type of deal I would look at. Maybe add a pick since it is a 2 for 1.

But we need an upgrade in our middle-6 RW over Sobotka who is currently playing with Skinner and Johansson. Smith may not be the best but he is definitely an upgrade.

I would put Sam there and promote Thompson he is ready

 

[PredsHead]

Do you think Smith is just off to a slow start to the season or is he starting to trend down in his career?

If he still has close to 20 goal ability this would be a type of deal I would look at. Maybe add a pick since it is a 2 for 1.

But we need an upgrade in our middle-6 RW over Sobotka who is currently playing with Skinner and Johansson. Smith may not be the best but he is definitely an upgrade.

I think Smith's role sort of changed on the Preds this year and he is still adjusting to his new role. He usually played 2nd line RW, but with some of our additions and the way the chemistry worked out, he was sort of shuffled down to the third/fourth line so he just isn't getting the chances he was in past years. IMO he is actually playing a bit better hockey all around this year, but just doesn't have the points to show for it.

 

[JThorne]

His daily cap hit is actually $21,505 and Vesey's is $12,231 for a total of $33,736 daily cap hit for the two. If you retained half of Scandella's salary($21,505/2=$10,752.50 daily cap hit), trade Vesey and add Craig Smith($22,849 daily cap hit) your daily cap hit would be $10,752.50 + $22,849 = $33,601.50.

They are currently paying $6.275M for Scandella ($4M) and Vesey ($2.275M), they would be paying $6.25M for half of Scandella ($2M) and Craig Smith ($4.25M). They would save $25k against the cap.

People ALWAYS do this and it is getting infuriating. You're counting pennies like it's all equal when it isn't. You have 2 roster spots added and compare them to 1 and say there's a savings of 25k/day. You're completely ignoring the fact that a 2 for 1 roster spot LEAVES OUT ANOTHER PLAYER and their subsequent salary. If you're going to make an argument, at least put in all the work, not just part.

 

[Sabrebuff2020]

Seabrook + 2nd for Scandella

Nice try the Sabres can't and don't want more cap troubles