Sabres Head Coach Search 2

[Jim Bob]

Martin will make Bylsma era teams like exciting hockey.

Good luck getting any offensive UFAs to sign here. "Hey do you want to play the 1-2-2 in a tightly disciplined system in a small market on a team that hasn't made the playoffs in one of the toughest divisions in hockey?"

Well, do they care more about getting offensive UFAs and playing entertaining hockey or winning?

Most people would want Trotz and he isn’t succeeding in NY because he plays a wide open style that appeals to offensive UFAs.

 

[Myllz]

Find me that candidate with no cause for concern. Hire him.

You said you don't see a difference between Martin and AV/McLellan. Not being a head coach in 8 years is a pretty major difference.

 

[Buffalo Norsemen]

Updated Sabres coaching candidate list post Dreger information April 24.

Jacques Martin Pit
Todd Richards TB
Rikard Gronberg Swe
Sheldon Keefe Tor
Chris Taylor Roc

 

[Sabre Dance]

You said you don't see a difference between Martin and AV/McLellan. Not being a head coach in 8 years is a pretty major difference.

He's been an assistant. Not being a head coach was likely his choice.

 

[Sabre Dance]

Updated Sabres coaching candidate list post Dreger information April 24.

Jacques Martin Pit
Todd Richards TB
Rikard Gronberg Swe
Sheldon Keefe Tor
Chris Taylor Roc

I would hire Martin out of that group.

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

Updated Sabres coaching candidate list post Dreger information April 24.

Jacques Martin Pit
Todd Richards TB
Rikard Gronberg Swe
Sheldon Keefe Tor
Chris Taylor Roc

Has there been any word at all if Botts or any team has asked to speak with Keefe?

 

[Husko]

Martin is pretty much my worst case scenario

 

[Fezzy126]

I feel like you guys are all confusing Martin with Jacques Lemaire... Sure Martin had some tight defensive teams, but everyone did during that era. Once Ottawa got more talent they were among the best offensive teams in the league.

And from what I can remember those Canadiens teams were pretty devoid of offensive talent.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Martin is pretty much my worst case scenario

Agreed.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Botterill: “we want to play up tempo aggressive hockey”

Also Botterill: “what about Jacques Martin?”

Botterill’s actions never match his words.

Still can’t believe he dropped Sam’s name when boasting about center depth after trading ROR, and then didn’t even try him at center. He comes across as totally clueless, and the results have so far confirm that he likely is.

 

[Buffalo Norsemen]

If they do go with Martin perhaps this is a organisation philosophy shift to a more defensive Style like the Islanders and Trots maybe they're just so much room to make up that playing with speed and offensively does not make sense it certainly is a double-edged sword though in my opinion. As others have mentioned he is not going to be an attractive magnet for free agents but perhaps the organization needs a good ass kicker.

Anyone know if any of the Pittsburgh players have come out and showered Martin with any praise?

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Martin isn’t my first choice, but he is very experienced and he does have experience turning a team around.

He took over an Ottawa team that was only a few years removed from expansion (they were in their 4th season).

The Senators had only 8 total wins 2 years in a row when Martin took over.

By his 3rd full year Ottawa finished 1st in the northeast. They went on to finish 1st in the northeast 2 more times in the next 4 years.

He was also brought in 2 separate times in Pittsburgh to stabilize the bench (once with Bylsma and then again when Mike Johnson was fired and Mike Sullivan promoted).

So maybe he wouldn’t be the worst choice to help stabilize this organization.

Plus, he could be moved into another role if and when Chris Taylor is ready.
He has front office experience and has moved to front office roles numerous times in the past.


Ultimately, botterill is the one that is (likely) betting his job on whoever he hired next, so I’ll jist have to trust him.

 

[Buffaloed]

 

[Baccus]

Dammit Buffaloed....

 

[CaptPantalones]

Martin isn’t my first choice, but he is very experienced and he does have experience turning a team around.

He took over an Ottawa team that was only a few years removed from expansion (they were in their 4th season).

The Senators had only 8 total wins 2 years in a row when Martin took over.

By his 3rd full year Ottawa finished 1st in the northeast. They went on to finish 1st in the northeast 2 more times in the next 4 years.

He was also brought in 2 separate times in Pittsburgh to stabilize the bench (once with Bylsma and then again when Mike Johnson was fired and Mike Sullivan promoted).

So maybe he wouldn’t be the worst choice to help stabilize this organization.

Plus, he could be moved into another role if and when Chris Taylor is ready.
He has front office experience and has moved to front office roles numerous times in the past.


Actually, the more I think about it the less I am upset at a potential Martin hire...

Right where I am. Not my first choice, but my clear favorite of the older veteran coach options. Hes shown the ability to adapt his game

 

[Deleted member 27798]

Updated Sabres coaching candidate list post Dreger information April 24.

Jacques Martin Pit
Todd Richards TB
Rikard Gronberg Swe
Sheldon Keefe Tor
Chris Taylor Roc

Doesn't sound like a GM who knows what he wants in a coach..

Martin...Tons of experience
Richards...6 years as an NHL HC...misses playoffs 5 years and the other year got ousted in the 1st round
Gronberg...Euro coach who no one knows how he will transition to the NHL coaching ranks
Keefe...AHL HC with a lot of success
Taylor...AHL HC with little success

So let me repeat myself...Botts what do you want in a HC?

 

[Buffaloed]

Martin isn’t my first choice, but he is very experienced and he does have experience turning a team around.

He took over an Ottawa team that was only a few years removed from expansion (they were in their 4th season).

The Senators had only 8 total wins 2 years in a row when Martin took over.

By his 3rd full year Ottawa finished 1st in the northeast. They went on to finish 1st in the northeast 2 more times in the next 4 years.

He was also brought in 2 separate times in Pittsburgh to stabilize the bench (once with Bylsma and then again when Mike Johnson was fired and Mike Sullivan promoted).

So maybe he wouldn’t be the worst choice to help stabilize this organization.

Plus, he could be moved into another role if and when Chris Taylor is ready.
He has front office experience and has moved to front office roles numerous times in the past.


Ultimately, botterill is the one that is (likely) betting his job on whoever he hired next, so I’ll jist have to trust him.

Martin's a terrific teacher, disciplined, and organized. He doesn't put up with any crap. If he had been hired instead of Housley, this team would be ready to win now. I would not be surprised if he wanted no part of it then.

Jacques Martin (ice hockey) - Wikipedia

 

[AustonsNostrils]

 

[WeDislikeEich]

So... we are now onto the Jacques Martin sweepstakes huh?

Is there a puke emoji? lol (j/k. I would actually be ok with Martin)

 

[1point21Gigawatts]

My knee jerk reaction is "what the f*** are they doing with Jacques Martin?!" which means it's probably the right hire. Especially since my knee jerk for Bylsma was "okay, well he can certainly get us in the playoffs." And Housley was "yeah, what a smart f***ing hire." My track record is bad.

 

[Flash20]

You see Dorian and Melnyk are trying to get Martin You say same old senators Then you see your team’s name in there And realized you joined the clown organizations

 

[Sansbacon]

Martin's a terrific teacher, disciplined, and organized. He doesn't put up with any crap. If he had been hired instead of Housley, this team would be ready to win now. I would not be surprised if he wanted no part of it then.

Jacques Martin (ice hockey) - Wikipedia

A structured hardass with a ton of experience... It doesn’t sound terrible, I’m not gonna lie.

 

[Ace]

Is it too late to bring Phil back?

He can learn how to tell which of his players is a disaster who shouldn't be on the ice and which players are good and shouldn't be in the box.

You can learn that in like an hour.

 

[Fezzy126]

You see Dorian and Melnyk are trying to get Martin You say same old senators Then you see your team’s name in there And realized you joined the clown organizations

Ottawa is his home, I could definitely see us losing out on him if they're actually interested. The reactions on twitter (and here) would be nuclear though

 

[Buffaloed]

Wow, Pegula vs Melnyk for Jacques Martin is like the Pats vs Jets for Bill Belichick. This is going to be a titanic battle that will shake the foundation of the hockey world.