Confirmed with Link: Sabres have signed Lawrence Pilut (LD, HV71)
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SundherDome
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The article says there's an NHL out clause. Yes, apparently out clauses weren't a thing a year or two ago, but given the Covid situation, this could be an opportunity for the KHL to temporarily get some NHL talent until the NHL ramps up fully.
I think we should maybe reserve judgement until we get the whole story. If we can loan guys out like this, it could end up being a good thing development wise.
I think we should maybe reserve judgement until we get the whole story. If we can loan guys out like this, it could end up being a good thing development wise.
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As far as I can tell, the recent reports about an NHL out-clause stemmed from Buffalo news reporter Lance Lysowski who has since deleted all tweets regarding said out-clause.
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I have no idea why there are talks about an NHL out-clause in the KHL SPC. And who is a source of that misleading information
The KHL SPC does not include an NHL out-clause, and it has never included. It works the same way as the NHL SPC, which does not include a KHL out-clause.
Both leagues honour the players´ contracts in the opposite league.
The KHL SPC can be terminated early if
1.both sides mutually agree to terminate a deal, or
2.a player wants to terminate a deal, he is obligated to pay the 1/3 or 2/3 (depends on age, in Pilut case it is 2/3) of the remaining (unpaid) contract value to a club. If a club wants to terminate a deal early, this club is obligated to pay 25% or 50% or 100% (depend on the time of a year) to the remaining contract value to a player.
The KHL clubs do not sign in principle any players, especially non-Russians, under a condition when the player would leave this KHL club mid-season. And, if Pilut wanted to leave Traktor by October or December, he would not sign a TWO-YEAR deal. He would sign just a one-year deal.
Of course, he can leave early if he does not adapt to Russia & KHL, but it is another story .... it would mean he is not good enough for KHL.
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OkimLom
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Even if Pilut decides to use the out-clause to come play for the team, it's another example of Botterill having some type of leverage (in the case of Pilut, playing time) and squandering it away and giving the leverage back to a player/another GM.
The guy just makes poor decision after poor decision and gets in his own way and the result is not improving the team.
The guy just makes poor decision after poor decision and gets in his own way and the result is not improving the team.
Well this is depressing me. So apparently we just lost a quality NHL defensemen (one of the rare bright spots the past 2 years) for nothing.
FIRE. BOTTERILL. YESTERDAY.
Unless of course this turns out to not be right
The point I was trying to make was that given the NHL is going to have players sitting on the shelf possibly until December or beyond, it makes sense that the KHL would loosen the rules at these extraordinary times. It also makes sense for Botteril and Pilut to come to a mutual agreement to go play hockey instead of rusting up in N America.
At the end of the day we don’t know if Pilut was going to play for the Sabres. They had decided he wasn’t a top priority.
Guys like Bryson and Borgen might be preferred options and I like both. They might go after a UFA like Dillon.
It will not sink the team but it does show as many have pointed out a lack of understanding value , an inability to properly develop players and another black eye in regards to European Free agents signing with the team. Just another piece of bad news piling on the hill that is Sabres misery.
Guys like Bryson and Borgen might be preferred options and I like both. They might go after a UFA like Dillon.
It will not sink the team but it does show as many have pointed out a lack of understanding value , an inability to properly develop players and another black eye in regards to European Free agents signing with the team. Just another piece of bad news piling on the hill that is Sabres misery.
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Pilut was looking at a 2 way qualifying offer with loss of signing bonus money. His minor league salary was $70k and he received $92.5k signing bonus each year. If he doesn't make the NHL roster, his income would take a major hit. Given the Sabres lack of usage of his skills, he made the right decision.
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joshjull
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I feel the same way. We need more of what Borgen brings but it still sucks to lose free money like Pilut.
itwasaforwardpass
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It wasn't an either or situation. Both Pilut and Borgen should've seen more playing time in the NHL this past season and Bogosian should've been residing on the sun.
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Something that hasn't been considered is that Pilut decided on his own that the NHL wasn't for him. I remember when he signed he said something to effect, "I want to try it out for a couple years". He was getting crushed on the boards almost every game. Maybe it wasn't any fun for him or he feared that concussionville was just around the corner. His final game was 3/5/2020 and he missed the rest of the season with an illness.
Kublakhan
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I agree with this.. I like Pilut but is seems all our D are just like his play style, give Borgen a real shot to punish people..
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Losing the asset to the KHL is a miss for sure. No matter how you slice it this is a feather taken out of Botteril's cap, if he has any left. However, unlike many here, I never saw Pilut as a top 4 defenseman at the NHL level, certainly not a top 4 on a playoff team. Used correctly he could have made a solid third pairing Dman. The problem is we have about 3-5 young defenseman that will need to start playing NHL minutes in the next three years to keep their hockey and asset value development on track. In my mind his best use, along with Risto and McCabe, was as a trade asset to fix some of the monster holes in our lineup.
Ultimately this is the continued pain of the failure to move a seasoned defenseman late summer through fall, which basically pissed all the defenseman off, prevented Ralph from getting a top 7 set, and ultimately probably cost us some points in the standings.
The only positive here, is that if you are uncertain about his ability to consistently play well at the NHL level, then you qualify him, let him play his two years in the KHL, and if he can handle it and excel, you can revisit signing him for a fulltime spot or trading his rights with more value. Not a total loss here, but one that was not needed.
Ultimately this is the continued pain of the failure to move a seasoned defenseman late summer through fall, which basically pissed all the defenseman off, prevented Ralph from getting a top 7 set, and ultimately probably cost us some points in the standings.
The only positive here, is that if you are uncertain about his ability to consistently play well at the NHL level, then you qualify him, let him play his two years in the KHL, and if he can handle it and excel, you can revisit signing him for a fulltime spot or trading his rights with more value. Not a total loss here, but one that was not needed.
vcv
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Didn”t think I could get any more mad about losing him.
BloFan4Life
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He didn't deserve a one way deal. He just wasn't impactful here. Would rather have Borgen and Bryson getting time this coming year.
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They shelled out 1-way deals to like 4 other tweener players last year. How could he not be worth it?
kirby11
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This is a team that gave Dalton ****ing Smith an NHL contract for the dumbest of reasons.
Like...wtf, how did Botts possibly think Pilut would be cool with year 3 of this BS?
There is no rock bottom.
Like...wtf, how did Botts possibly think Pilut would be cool with year 3 of this BS?
There is no rock bottom.
I see Bryson splitting time next year with Rochester. Also isn't Borgen more a RD? Now instead of having a cost effective LD under contract, we have to trade for one. Or try and find one in free agency.
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