Proposal: Sabres | Blackhawks

[McJedi]

The comment was that the Sabres have prospect depth such that they can make the move and not cripple themselves.

But, giving up their only two legit top 6 forward prospects in a trade would cripple their future.

Plus, the Sabres don't have the cap space for a move like that.

Fair enough. The construct that Buffalo can get Kane for Skinner is so absurd, it’s nearly impossible to fix. This was a way to make this trade happen that allows it to be even value wise.

But you can’t fix stupid and this trade idea of Skinner for Kane just is really stupid.

 

[Sinbad]

Elliotte Friedman was saying on a Buffalo radio show today that the Chicago core pieces are not going to be part of this rebuild so doubt this type of trade will ever happen ..

Stan Bowman has said the same thing himself on multiple occasions during his recent media tour. End of the day, none of them are getting moved unless they choose to be.

 

[Jim Bob]

Fair enough. The construct that Buffalo can get Kane for Skinner is so absurd, it’s nearly impossible to fix. This was a way to make this trade happen that allows it to be even value wise.

But you can’t fix stupid and this trade idea of Skinner for Kane just is really stupid.

I think PKane to Buffalo is stupid, so...

 

[ClydeLee]

Do people in Buffalo even still want Kane? I'm amazed people seem to forget things and I'm not sure it would be the warm homecoming welcoming that people seem to want it to be.

 

[shortfuze]

Those are not comparable examples at all - not even to each other. Kane signed his deal years ago (same situation as Crosby/Malkin/Ovi), would easily pro-rate to $11.5-12M today. Kucherov deal anywhere but TB is an $11M AAV.

Drai should have fired his agent immediately after negotiating that deal, but like Tarasenko they were coming off their RFA deals and had limited leverage - they were not 26yo entering their 8th pro season & 3rd contract as a UFA.

Notice you left out the comparison to Marner, who plays a much more similar style to Skinner and makes just south of $11M.

Is he overpaid by $750K - 1M? Probably. Does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Nope.

why should draisaitl have fired his manager? he was a 70 point player when he signed it. he had 77 points that year and 70 the next year.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I think skinner will bounce back this year....and I even think this trade is beyond bad for the hawks (because it is!)

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Oof. Sorry Chicago fans. I dunno what’s worse. The OP or some of the other proposals in here.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Oof. Sorry Chicago fans. I dunno what’s worse. The OP or some of the other proposals in here.

Happens to every team. Just our turn right now.

 

[Mtler in Toronto]

10 years on HF . Back in the day this would have been closed by now.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Absolutely not

Off the table are Cozens, Quinn, Olofsson , Samuelson, Dahlin, Jokiharju, UPL


If it’s done this year cap needs to balance out

A more likely deal for both would be
Kane
Keith with retention

For

Reinhart (approx $6M)
MCCabe $2.88M
And either
A. Miller ($3.875M) and Mittlestadt approx $1M
OR
B. ristolainen
Some picks and secondary prospects


If Ristolainrn instead of Miller then there would be a change in the rest.

This also relies on them moving Montour/Miller for a cheaper LD

The reason I’d trade a Reinhart is because of cost and keeping youth.

I don’t see a way buffalo can even keep Reinhart after 3 yrs when Cozens gets next contract and Dahlin is on a high contract as is Jokiharju.

If the move Reinhart and Mittlestadt they likely go 8 skaters in the ED

Umm...no.

If the Sabres want Kane, Cozens is going the other way. Period. And that's the minimum Buffalo is giving up. Likely more than that. You don't trade for an elite NHL player without giving up important pieces.

And the Hawks are retaining on Keith...why exactly?

 

[Halla]

it would cost skinner + dahlin lol

 

[Halla]

Oh Boy.

A) Skinner has a NMC and is just as disinterested in being part of a rebuild as Kane is. Zero chance he waives. At 27yo, He's also already aged out of the core the Hawks are planning to build around.

B) Asplund is not the difference in value that makes CHI even consider this. He MIGHT be an NHL bottom-6 fwd... Maybe.

C) Keith, at 37yo is not a need in BUF, he's too expensive has a full NMC & is a diminishing asset. He's also a LH shot which does not make him an ideal partner for Dahlin. Pass, not a fit.

Any deal for Kane to BUF starts w/ Reinhart or Cozens and includes at least one other A- Prospect and/or a high pick...

** Starts with.

correction. Reinhart AND Cozens and A level prospect and 1st

 

[MarkusKetterer]

correction. Reinhart AND Cozens and A level prospect and 1st

Do you mean an additional A level prospect? Or are you saying Cozens is a B level prospect?

 

[Sparksrus3]

I know “the worst ever” gets thrown around a lot but this might legitimately be it.

yes this one is brutal but it’s not a head turner compared to most of the Leafs fans proposals ..

 

[Blitz]

correction. Reinhart AND Cozens and A level prospect and 1st

Correction. Nope.

The difference between Kane & Reinhart is NOT Cozens+A Prospect+1st.

 

[Djp]

Umm...no.

If the Sabres want Kane, Cozens is going the other way. Period. And that's the minimum Buffalo is giving up. Likely more than that. You don't trade for an elite NHL player without giving up important pieces.

And the Hawks are retaining on Keith...why exactly?

Go back in trade history and find elite prospects 21 and under who have yr5 to play in the nhl givrn up for 30+ yr old players? It hasn’t happened...and never will.

Keith is no longer a top pair Dman thus paid too much for his role.

 

[Dod93Cityt]

I literally just shouted "EWWW"

 

[Hockeyholic]

Kane being underrated here.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Kane for Suzuki.

 

[Sticktape]

Wow I need a shower after this one.

 

[Beerz]

Bad for the Hawks.

How did this reach 4 pages.

I'd love Kane on Buffalo...but we can't afford him for one...and I wouldn't want to give up the pieces necessary to obtain him either.

 

[Langdon Alger]

I can’t believe you’re not even willing to give a first for Kane in this trade. I mean, it starts with that, and then Buffalo still adds a lot. I’m not sure Chicago will trade Kane, and even if they do, there’s no guarantee they trade him before next season. It would take a pretty big offer to get him, and no, Skinner would not be part of it.

 

[LeafChief]

Lmao what!

 

[Langdon Alger]

Oof. Sorry Chicago fans. I dunno what’s worse. The OP or some of the other proposals in here.

Nothing in here is worse than the original proposal.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Nothing in here is worse than the original proposal.

Our namesakes and former Sabres’ teammates could always unretire, sign with the Sabres and be included in the trade to Chicago