Player Discussion Ryan Spooner VII

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since76

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Even if spoon get 100 pts, his haters here will say "trade him when his value is high"
He is young fast and produce at 50 pts pace and more
Changing him for someone who "can" be better is some kind of ridicules
Let him play
There is many other players in this teamwho should give his place before him ....schafer , acciari, nash
Sorry but bjork is very far to be as good as spooner, very
Jfk and donato ? Let's see
 

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Why are the Patriots successful ? Because they identify the core, and have no problem letting players go who get to a point where they require more salary than they are worth to the team, and replace them with younger cheaper players who can perform as well or better. They overpay no one who isn't a star.

Spooner at 4M (realistic next year) is not worth it. Career high 13 goals. DeBrusk and Heinen are almost there as rookies. This year maybe 20 if he is lucky. Gotta have better from a 2d line winger

If they resign Spooner for 4M, and he gets beat out, everyone will complain about another 4M contract riding the bench, unless they can find a taker.

You do realize 4 million is just 1.1 million more than he is making this year?

As long as he continues to play well (he's at a 60 pt. pace over 82 games since his return from injury), he's moveable at 4.0, same as he's moveable at 2.9. Especially with no term on his deal.
 

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I like Kreider How long is he out for because he has missed a ton of time and would need games under his belt.Only like 27 or 28 left for Bruins.Keep reading Rangers asking arm and leg for players

Started skating yesterday, hoping to return to line-up anywhere between 2-4 weeks.
 

shelbysdad

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You do realize 4 million is just 1.1 million more than he is making this year?

As long as he continues to play well (he's at a 60 pt. pace over 82 games since his return from injury), he's moveable at 4.0, same as he's moveable at 2.9. Especially with no term on his deal.

How many points in how many games? Is it a pace he can maintain for the rest of this year and his career? Will the real Ryan Spooner please stand up.
Seen it many times when someone returns from injury or, gets traded to a new team...they tear it up, then revert to who they are. A 10 - 20 game sample isn't an indication of who a player is.

Can Bergeron keep up this pace ? maybe this year... What are Krejci numbers since coming back - yet all I see here is trade him. There is a player as an example you can't use small samples....gotta look at the whole year. Do the same with Spooner and his career high 13 goals. He is not in the future of this team and is certainly a position that can be upgraded

Someone will have to go soon. I'd rather trade Spooner + prospect(s) to get a legit 25-30 goal winger for that spot.
 

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How many points in how many games? Is it a pace he can maintain for the rest of this year and his career? Will the real Ryan Spooner please stand up.
Seen it many times when someone returns from injury or, gets traded to a new team...they tear it up, then revert to who they are. A 10 - 20 game sample isn't an indication of who a player is.

Can Bergeron keep up this pace ? maybe this year... What are Krejci numbers since coming back - yet all I see here is trade him. There is a player as an example you can't use small samples....gotta look at the whole year. Do the same with Spooner and his career high 13 goals. He is not in the future of this team and is certainly a position that can be upgraded

Someone will have to go soon. I'd rather trade Spooner + prospect(s) to get a legit 25-30 goal winger for that spot.

Hey if you can make a hockey trade like that and upgrade while staying in the confines of the cap, sure. That makes sense.

Write off his games prior to getting injured. Since returning he's got 23 in 30, so not a big sample, but bigger than 10-20 games. Oh and most of those points are at even strength, not on the PP.

Krejci's numbers in his last 30 games are slightly worse than Spooner, but by just a little. I wouldn't trade him either at this juncture, earliest I'd entertain trading Krejci is summer 2019.

But moving Spooner this summer over a 1.1 million raise on a 1-year deal because he isn't considered "part of the future" is ridiculous.
 

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Spooner is in a weird spot.

He'll either be his usual self come March/April and won't be in line for the raise and will likely find a new home. Remember the 2 missed playoff years he was the most guilty of any Bruin of quitting and going missing and last year we correctly benched in the playoffs we didn't even think of playing him. Dude was in his home town in the street clothes.

OR he will have a decent playoffs and be in line for 5 mil a year maybe more. Not sure where the middle ground is.

I wonder if we could extend him for a couple years for under 4 mil before the end of this year? As Bruinsdust said hes plenty tradeable at that cap hit.
 

shelbysdad

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Hey if you can make a hockey trade like that and upgrade while staying in the confines of the cap, sure. That makes sense.

Write off his games prior to getting injured. Since returning he's got 23 in 30, so not a big sample, but bigger than 10-20 games. Oh and most of those points are at even strength, not on the PP.

Krejci's numbers in his last 30 games are slightly worse than Spooner, but by just a little. I wouldn't trade him either at this juncture, earliest I'd entertain trading Krejci is summer 2019.

But moving Spooner this summer over a 1.1 million raise on a 1-year deal because he isn't considered "part of the future" is ridiculous.


I get it. I give. You like (or have more faith in) Spooner more than I do. 4 M was a number I picked....maybe he wants 5M . He is an RFA . Maybe gets offered more by someone else. I would rather take a chance on hitting another home run with a a Heinen/DeBrusk than a 4M (or more) double with Spooner. Hes not that hard to replace. But I give up.....Belesky had a great year one too....time to move on
 

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I still think you sell high. I've always believed Spooner was a player. As a middle-6 scorer. You have Marchand as possibly the best winger in the game. Heinen and DeBrusk in the NHL as rookies. Donato and Bjork on the verge. They aren't struggling for left shot wingers....

Wouldn't give him away, but I think he now has real world value to so many teams. Both contenders and re-builders...
 

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I still think you sell high. I've always believed Spooner was a player. As a middle-6 scorer. You have Marchand as possibly the best winger in the game. Heinen and DeBrusk in the NHL as rookies. Donato and Bjork on the verge. They aren't struggling for left shot wingers....

Wouldn't give him away, but I think he now has real world value to so many teams. Both contenders and re-builders...

Example of high return for Spooner?
 

remer

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Example of high return for Spooner?

Well if people are talking about Patrick Maroon (UFA) bringing back a late round 1st round pick, than Spooner (RFA)would be worth a 1st and a 2nd round pick.
Bruins would be smart to bring him back on a similar one or two year deal of about 3 to 3.25 million.
 

Mainehockey33

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To put things into perspective, the highly sought after Spooner replacement, Matt Duchene, has 25 points in 42 games this year. Spooner has one less point in 7 less games played and is less then half the price. Duchene is a -12, Spooner a +11.
 

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To put things into perspective, the highly sought after Spooner replacement, Matt Duchene, has 25 points in 42 games this year. Spooner has one less point in 7 less games played and is less then half the price. Duchene is a -12, Spooner a +11.
Yeah but he was inconsistent the last 2 years so clearly he needs to go...
 
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I'm torn with Spooner. He's been a good solider and done what he's asked, and has been good scoring depth. With the emergence of Debrusk and Heinen it looks like we have some additional scoring depth. If Spooner can be in a deal for a 2nd line wing upgrade, I think you have to do it. We have the depth right now, but I feel we need a higher end 2nd line to win the cup.
 

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I'm torn with Spooner. He's been a good solider and done what he's asked, and has been good scoring depth. With the emergence of Debrusk and Heinen it looks like we have some additional scoring depth. If Spooner can be in a deal for a 2nd line wing upgrade, I think you have to do it. We have the depth right now, but I feel we need a higher end 2nd line to win the cup.

Spooner has been the engine that makes the 2nd line run. Getting rid of Spooner for a marginal upgrade would be a mistake in my opinion because Spooner isn’t the problem. Krejci is looking like a shell of his former self out there and the weakest link on the second line. Before people jump on me Krejci was my favorite player for years, just calling it like I see it. There’s nothing we can do about this until summer 2019 but I definitely hang onto Spooner until then and I’d give him more reps at center. He’s still winning face offs when Krejci gets tossed.
 

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Spooner has been the engine that makes the 2nd line run. Getting rid of Spooner for a marginal upgrade would be a mistake in my opinion because Spooner isn’t the problem. Krejci is looking like a shell of his former self out there and the weakest link on the second line. Before people jump on me Krejci was my favorite player for years, just calling it like I see it. There’s nothing we can do about this until summer 2019 but I definitely hang onto Spooner until then and I’d give him more reps at center. He’s still winning face offs when Krejci gets tossed.
I mostly agree, I think Krejci could be very effective with the right linemates, they don't happen to be Spooner or Debrusk. Krejci definitely isn't the dominance force he once was but he can definitely still be effective, maybe with Heinen and Backes.
 
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Mainehockey33

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I mostly agree, I think Krejci could be very effective with the right linemates, they don't happen to be Spooner or Debrusk. Krejci definitely isn't the dominance force he once was but he can definitely still be effective, maybe with Heinen and Backes.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Heinen and Krejci swap lines. Krejci isn’t bad and would make the Bruins real deep playing on the third line, I just don’t like him with speedy skilled wingers. Backes and Nash might be good for him.
 

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Certainly wouldnt let spooner walk for nothing like i felt 8 weeks ago... but no way i give him more than a year. Guys who coasted on defense 90% of their career need to be kept hungy
 

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I wouldn’t mind seeing Heinen and Krejci swap lines. Krejci isn’t bad and would make the Bruins real deep playing on the third line, I just don’t like him with speedy skilled wingers. Backes and Nash might be good for him.
I was skeptical about Nash being able to produce without Heinen but he is playing such a good game right now it could be the right move. I feel like Heinen is the best winger for Krejci but Nash could be solid.
 
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