Player Discussion Ryan Nugent-Hopkins '18-19 season

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  1. Fourier

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    The whole Nuge vs Draisaitl argument is completely pointless. They play different roles and have different strengths. But your post still shows how numbers can be used to mislead. In the first 17 games of the season Leon was indeed centering his own line and was at a ppg but 10 of the 17 points involved McDavid directly. Two more were with McDavid on the ice. Even though Nuge was actually on McDavid's line during this period 6 of his 17 points points did not have McDavid getting a point.

    For the season Nuge has 21 points on which McDavid did not get a point, Leon has 18. Both players actually help McDavid when they play with him so its not like they both ride his coat tails and do nothing otherwise.

    But the bottomline is: Why do we care? If either of these two guys were not actually producing things would be even worse.
     
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    Touché

    Just jokes man.
     
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    Nope can’t stand either of them. ;)
     
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    Yeah there’s so many other things to be upset about with this club, no need to tear one player down in an attempt to build up another player. Especially when they’re the 2nd and 3rd best forwards on the team.
     
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    So what you are saying is load them up on one line;)
     
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    Actually, its not a bad idea for a shift here and there. :thumbu:
     
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    They'd be interesting 3 on 3
     
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    McCurdy's numbers posted points per 60 mins. Draisaitl's point production away from McDavid shows that he's not being "babysat" by anyone, which contradicts your original jab at him.

    To echo the sentiments of other posters, it's sad when our fanbase can't appreciate the only two star players outside of McDavid and needs to trash one in order to elevate the other.
     
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    *by a country mile!
     
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    Can we all just settle that they're both really good in their roles, but they ain't McDavid? We have so many other players on this team to trash, and they would be much more deserved of it.
     
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    Drafting effective players outside of the first round is impossible for the current team. It's first round or nothin' at all.
     
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    And even the first round has been a 50/50 crapshoot. But they did make an excellent and well thought out choice in picking McDavid, so credit is due there.
     
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    Fourier da real MVP
     
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    Your post would be so much better if you stopped at the bolded. Why include that last part? This is the RNH thread even, but even so you're still trying to bait guys into an argument with you. Why can't you just praise Nuge, without the need of slagging Drai? I don't get it, it's so incredibly unnecessary.
     
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    Is that the chin of the mask, or was this just a really fun night?
     
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    "The Nuge is Huge."
     
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    Hiss hiss that's nuges ... Junk.
     
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