Speculation: Ryan Miller, Thomas Vanek, Jason Pominville, Drew Stafford
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Regarding the bolded, keep in mind that the centerpiece of the Nash deal was Brandon Dubinsky, and Columbus is better for it--the irony being that the same two teams pulled off a somewhat similar deal in reverse yesterday with Gaborik. I wouldn't mind the Nash template--two 2nd/3rd liners with energy and some offensive ability (Anisimov, Dubinsky), a team's top-3 prospect (Erixon), and a 1st--in a Vanek deal, with the caveat that I would not want to take on a salary like Dubinsky's.
If his comments over the last few days are any indication, he's not going to re-sign before the end of next season. If that is the case, he should be moved this summer.
Irving Zisman
Really Bad Grandpa
Agreed. Shut up, play hockey and most importantly, play better if you don't want to see yourself or your friends get traded. Saying "it's tough to see a great guy like xxxxxx go," is one thing, whining and saying it "sucks" that Gaustad got traded last year (Miller) is another.
joshjull
Registered User
What?
A player being asked the DAY a friend gets traded their thoughts. They respond they are unhappy a friend leaves. Then you guys get mad?
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Wow, a lot of "stuff" in this thread...
Miller and Vanek's comments - no big deal to me. I get the idea about being stoic and all, but they didn't say anything whiny to me, just honestly having questions about their future that we all know they are thinking about anyway. The bigger issue is whether they let that trade effect their on-ice performance. With Gaustad and Roy it sure didn't, so I don't expect Miller or vanek to drop off now either.
As for a Vanek trade (or with the other trades this last week and the idea of a rebuild) - more people should realize that this team, up until last season, was built with the idea of making the playoffs without spending too much. That was BTG's plan and Regier followed it. That meant doing just enough to try and make a profit, nothing more. So when those teams didn't make another Cup final the problem was not the best players, it was the supporting cast. More specifically, there should have been 1-2 players on the roster that were BETTER than the best players, and our "best" players should really have been the 3rd-6th best players. Many fans here blame "the core" when they really shouldn't have ever been "the core". That's not their fault, and it's not Regier's fault either because it was ownership that made decisions based on money over performance.
So now that ownership is different, and they all realize another approach has to be taken, Regier is doing what he can to stock up. But again, all the fans clamoring for a rebuild (even if it's the right approach) should realize that the trade itself is not the payoff, but actually drafting or acquiring players that will pan out. Even the "best" organizations bust out on top draft picks on a regular basis, so I don't expect more than maybe a 50% QUALITY return on all these picks Regier has picked up the last week. If Vanek and Miller decide they want to go, then by all means trade them, but Regier better get as many 1st rd picks and top, no guesswork, prospects as possible. Otherwise fans of a ground-up re-build will be sorely disappointed when it takes more time for the roster to come together...and then still be mediocre. There's every chance of that happening, but with even more years of missed playoffs in between.
Miller and Vanek's comments - no big deal to me. I get the idea about being stoic and all, but they didn't say anything whiny to me, just honestly having questions about their future that we all know they are thinking about anyway. The bigger issue is whether they let that trade effect their on-ice performance. With Gaustad and Roy it sure didn't, so I don't expect Miller or vanek to drop off now either.
As for a Vanek trade (or with the other trades this last week and the idea of a rebuild) - more people should realize that this team, up until last season, was built with the idea of making the playoffs without spending too much. That was BTG's plan and Regier followed it. That meant doing just enough to try and make a profit, nothing more. So when those teams didn't make another Cup final the problem was not the best players, it was the supporting cast. More specifically, there should have been 1-2 players on the roster that were BETTER than the best players, and our "best" players should really have been the 3rd-6th best players. Many fans here blame "the core" when they really shouldn't have ever been "the core". That's not their fault, and it's not Regier's fault either because it was ownership that made decisions based on money over performance.
So now that ownership is different, and they all realize another approach has to be taken, Regier is doing what he can to stock up. But again, all the fans clamoring for a rebuild (even if it's the right approach) should realize that the trade itself is not the payoff, but actually drafting or acquiring players that will pan out. Even the "best" organizations bust out on top draft picks on a regular basis, so I don't expect more than maybe a 50% QUALITY return on all these picks Regier has picked up the last week. If Vanek and Miller decide they want to go, then by all means trade them, but Regier better get as many 1st rd picks and top, no guesswork, prospects as possible. Otherwise fans of a ground-up re-build will be sorely disappointed when it takes more time for the roster to come together...and then still be mediocre. There's every chance of that happening, but with even more years of missed playoffs in between.
