Ryan Howse

[NHLFreak]

Projections Please.

Do you think he makes any impact in NHL?

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[tyflames]

No probably not. If he can regain his junior form maybe. If he can develop into a 2 way player then maybe a third liner that offers offense.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Far to early to tell with Howse. He has the talent, conditioning has been an issue though. We should have a clearer assessment next season. I think this season has been a very steep learning curve for Howse in the pro game. He has not provided the skill to the Heat that was expected of him to this point. He really needs to work on his game and conditioning this offseason if he wants to take things to the next level.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Far to early to tell with Howse. He has the talent, conditioning has been an issue though. We should have a clearer assessment next season. I think this season has been a very steep learning curve for Howse in the pro game. He has not provided the skill to the Heat that was expected of him to this point. He really needs to work on his game and conditioning this offseason if he wants to take things to the next level.

I agree, Troy Ward has really made Howse aware of the challenges that he will face as a professional hockey player.

His results are a little disappointing, but given the changes and bottom six role he has played through it is not entirely surprising.
Injuries have also affected his development to this point in a big way

As you said, next year will really be a telling year in regards to his future with the Calgary Flames.

 

[MarkGio]

It's really too bad when a kid doesn't take the opportunities seriously. Its bloody waste of talent. What what we've seen this year, he'll be another Dustin Penner at the most. In that he has the skills to be a good pro, but doesn't have the work ethic.
However, he might not even be a Dustin Penner, as he might not ever be in the NHL

 

[madmike77]

Coming in Howse had a rep as a lazy player and I don't think he has done anything to dispel that rep.

Unless he shows he's willing to put in some significant work and improve his game I don't see him sniffing the NHL.

 

[Double Dion]

It's really too bad when a kid doesn't take the opportunities seriously. Its bloody waste of talent. What what we've seen this year, he'll be another Dustin Penner at the most. In that he has the skills to be a good pro, but doesn't have the work ethic.
However, he might not even be a Dustin Penner, as he might not ever be in the NHL

Howse will never even be Dustin Penner at the AHL level. Like I've said for years, Howse is a junior scorer. But like Cameron, his game translates poorly to the pros. Guys like Reinhart and Holland (stupid Feaster) translate really well to the pro game. Penner has scored 30 goals at the NHL level and has 4 20+ goal seasons. Howse hasn't even scored 1 goal at the AHL level yet. Oh and he's 5 inches shorter and just as fat.

 

[MarkGio]

Howse will never even be Dustin Penner at the AHL level. Like I've said for years, Howse is a junior scorer. But like Cameron, his game translates poorly to the pros. Guys like Reinhart and Holland (stupid Feaster) translate really well to the pro game. Penner has scored 30 goals at the NHL level and has 4 20+ goal seasons. Howse hasn't even scored 1 goal at the AHL level yet. Oh and he's 5 inches shorter and just as fat.

I meant Dustin Penner in work ethic. Taking every other season off

 

[KevinMattinson]

The problem with opportunities in hockey is that they don't come around all that often. Get a reputation for being lazy and that'll stick with you until you find yourself permanently in the ECHL. If Howse doesn't pick things up in a big way, and soon, he'll find himself lost in the shuffle.

 

[NativeHockey77*]

Anyone know if this guy is coming back to pro hockey? I read in the news paper that he played in Vernon Native Hockey Tournament and was one of the all-stars. Same with Casey Pierro-Zabotel who lead the tournament in scoring but it was Ryan Howse and the Big Guy Lake team who won the Tournament. I wanted to go to that tournament but I had to work that weekend

 

[Skobel24]

Anyone know if this guy is coming back to pro hockey? I read in the news paper that he played in Vernon Native Hockey Tournament and was one of the all-stars. Same with Casey Pierro-Zabotel who lead the tournament in scoring but it was Ryan Howse and the Big Guy Lake team who won the Tournament. I wanted to go to that tournament but I had to work that weekend

IF he comes back, I see him as an ECHL'er, bottom 6 AHL'er at best.

 

[tfong]

Has there ever been a case of a prospect washout making a comeback?

 

[Hand of Gaudreau]

Has there ever been a case of a prospect washout making a comeback?

I think Tim Thomas comes pretty close to that, but that's the only one that comes to mind for me.

 

[joeyabs]

Ummm no

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

I doubt it would be with the Flames if he did, his contract was fully terminated. Hopefully he's happy in life doing whatever he finds passion in.

 

[tfong]

I think Tim Thomas comes pretty close to that, but that's the only one that comes to mind for me.

But he always was playing, he's a journeyman goalie, so he had no choice versus Howse just say he's giving up going pro.

Either way I don't think he comes back at all. He quit because he lost passion.

 

[Lunatik]

IF he comes back, I see him as an ECHL'er, bottom 6 AHL'er at best.

he's not fit enough, physical enough or defensively aware enough to play in the bottom 6, even at the AHL level.

 

[YMCMBYOLO]

he's not fit enough, physical enough or defensively aware enough to play in the bottom 6, even at the AHL level.

This; unless he has vastly changed since being terminated, I don't think he has the ability to become a good bottom 6er.

 

[Skobel24]

he's not fit enough, physical enough or defensively aware enough to play in the bottom 6, even at the AHL level.

Which is exactly why I said "at best". As far as I am concerned, that is his peak now.

 

[TheClassicK*]

The Flames seemed to have a history with these guys - Howse, MacDermid, and Dan Ryder - who quit on their teams prematurely because of the "lack of passion". Bad luck I guess?

 

[tfong]

The Flames seemed to have a history with these guys - Howse, MacDermid, and Dan Ryder - who quit on their teams prematurely because of the "lack of passion". Bad luck I guess?

Bad luck yes, but its not a rare occurence. You rarely hear about other teams prospects that just quit or don't go anywhere because he wasn't really a high profile prospect after awhile.

 

[Skobel24]

The Flames seemed to have a history with these guys - Howse, MacDermid, and Dan Ryder - who quit on their teams prematurely because of the "lack of passion". Bad luck I guess?

Three guys in the past 10-12 years isn't bad at all.

 

[Lunatik]

The Flames seemed to have a history with these guys - Howse, MacDermid, and Dan Ryder - who quit on their teams prematurely because of the "lack of passion". Bad luck I guess?

Dan Ryder was suffering from issues due to mental illness. MacDermid was with the team a few months. Howse is the only real example.